[Bradford] U.K. Court, in David Miranda Case, Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights of Free Press

[Stephane Urdy]

Hi Chaps,

These are interesting topics.
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought this was a Linux related mailing list ?

Kind regards,

Stephane

On 21/01/16 11:51, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> Today's it's spun as European Human Rights. Yesterday it would have
> been spun as the great tradition of British Press Freedom. Take your
> pick.
>
> At the expense of ruining a good story, the judgement (as opposed to
> the spin) upholds the government's actions but notes that the law is
> poorly drafted.
>
> During detention, there is no statuary mechanism for the detainee to
> admit that they have privileged original documents in their possession
> and to ask for a magistrate able to seal them to the court. This is
> both unreasonable and inequitable.
>
> The way these things are usually done are to obtain the services of a
> lawyer who arranges for them to be declared at customs. No one in the
> civil service seems to have considered that anyone would be stupid
> enough to attempt to smuggle original legal documents through 'nothing
> to declare'.
>
> My moral - don't play at being a spy. The British taking spying far
> too seriously, and are better at it than most. Detention is nothing
> much to be worried about. The time to worry is when the professional
> spooks invite you politely to leave through the special private exit
> (before customs, detention ot who have legally entered the country).
> During the troubles, if you knew where the door was, you could see
> them taking away folk out from Leeds-Bradford whose records would say
> they'd never boarded the plane in Ireland.
>
> For what it's worth, if you ever want to get documents out of the
> country without the British spying on you, just ask a frenemy to ship
> them FedEx. That's US of A, and they take care of their own.
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brian A <bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk
> <mailto:bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk>> wrote:
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>     U.K. Court, in David Miranda Case, Rules Terrorism Act Violates
>     Fundamental Rights of Free Press
>
>     As a background, for those who have forgotten/not followed this:
>     David Miranda is the partner of Guardian journalist Glenn
>     Greenwald who interview Ed Snowden in Hong Kong.
>
>     It is interesting to note that this case was won because of the
>     protection of the European Convention of Human Rights. As I
>     understand it Cameron wants us out of European Human Rights - so
>     where would that leave us!
>
>     UK Court Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights of Free
>     Press
>     <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
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>     UK Court Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights...
>     <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
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>     The court ruled that the UK's laws breach rights in case involving
>     seizure of documents from the partner of Intercept co-founder
>     Glenn Greenwald.
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>     View on theintercept.com
>     <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
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>     Brian
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