[Bradford] U.K. Court, in David Miranda Case, Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights of Free Press

[Robert Burrell Donkin]

<shrug>

There's been a long running interest here in data security when you take
your Linux laptop across the UK border, and some interest in technology
law. From time to time, Leeds-Bradford has high security so there's a local
slant too.

If your laptop has a card reader, then you could boot from there with
keying material on the card. Transport the card in your camera, or
something. Customs sometimes wants you to be able to boot your laptop so
you need a bootable card with a Linux on as well. I find the partition IDs
are still really fiddly, and none of the major distros seem to work well
for me out of the box. My favoured solution today is rolling my own using
busybox. It's quite intricate and I don't know any good, well maintained
resources on the internet explaining how to accumplish it.

I know a number of BradLUGgers have to travel with important keys would
prefer something simpler. Like having more rights when detained, for
example. Seems unlikely to me that this will lead to a change in the law
any time soon, though.

Then again, when I was detained at Leeds-Bradford flying back from
ApacheCon, no one cared about the copy of Applied Cryptography in my hand
luggage nor my encrypted Linux laptop. They just wanted to talk about what
my neighbours and cricketing friends thought about 9/11. Then again, I was
living in a majority ethnic postcode at the time so I suppose that
shouldn't have come as a big surprise.

Robert


On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Stephane Urdy <stephane.urdy at yourprog.com>
wrote:

> Hi Chaps,
>
> These are interesting topics.
> Maybe I am wrong, but I thought this was a Linux related mailing list ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephane
>
>
> On 21/01/16 11:51, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
>
> Today's it's spun as European Human Rights. Yesterday it would have been
> spun as the great tradition of British Press Freedom. Take your pick.
>
> At the expense of ruining a good story, the judgement (as opposed to the
> spin) upholds the government's actions but notes that the law is poorly
> drafted.
>
> During detention, there is no statuary mechanism for the detainee to admit
> that they have privileged original documents in their possession and to ask
> for a magistrate able to seal them to the court. This is both unreasonable
> and inequitable.
>
> The way these things are usually done are to obtain the services of a
> lawyer who arranges for them to be declared at customs. No one in the civil
> service seems to have considered that anyone would be stupid enough to
> attempt to smuggle original legal documents through 'nothing to declare'.
>
> My moral - don't play at being a spy. The British taking spying far too
> seriously, and are better at it than most. Detention is nothing much to be
> worried about. The time to worry is when the professional spooks invite you
> politely to leave through the special private exit (before customs,
> detention ot who have legally entered the country). During the troubles, if
> you knew where the door was, you could see them taking away folk out from
> Leeds-Bradford whose records would say they'd never boarded the plane in
> Ireland.
>
> For what it's worth, if you ever want to get documents out of the country
> without the British spying on you, just ask a frenemy to ship them FedEx.
> That's US of A, and they take care of their own.
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Brian A <bradlug at hackroyd.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> U.K. Court, in David Miranda Case, Rules Terrorism Act Violates
>> Fundamental Rights of Free Press
>>
>> As a background, for those who have forgotten/not followed this: David
>> Miranda is the partner of Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald who interview
>> Ed Snowden in Hong Kong.
>>
>> It is interesting to note that this case was won because of the
>> protection of the European Convention of Human Rights. As I understand it
>> Cameron wants us out of European Human Rights - so where would that leave
>> us!
>>
>> UK Court Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights of Free Press
>> <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
>>
>>
>> [image: image]
>> <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> UK Court Rules Terrorism Act Violates Fundamental Rights...
>> <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
>> The court ruled that the UK's laws breach rights in case involving
>> seizure of documents from the partner of Intercept co-founder Glenn
>> Greenwald.
>>
>> View on theintercept.com
>> <https://theintercept.com/2016/01/19/miranda-appeal-uk-terrorism-fundamental-rights-violated/>
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>>
>> Brian
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