[Bradford] Let's talk about Gnu/Linux

[Stephane Urdy]

Hi Rob,

You are seriously over reacting.

On my end, I refuse and resist this type of anxiety atmosphere, and I
will do that with the opposite which is let's laugh about it.
Would I want to act up on it, I do that when I vote and there are plenty
of political organisation to choose from in our democratic governments,
pick one and complain there but not only that, build a political
program, in other words, get involved in a positive manner.

I don't believe our governments want us harm and I am not paranoid when
I go to an airport.

Also, you can keep your sarcasms for yourself, not interested.

Now, if you don't mind, let's talk about Gnu/Linux.

Stephane


On 21/01/16 15:52, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Stephane Urdy
> <stephane.urdy at yourprog.com <mailto:stephane.urdy at yourprog.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Nick,
>
>     I agree on some points and disagree on other, I believe the choice
>     of technology chosen to either protect your privacy or hide
>     something considered today unlawful [it might change tomorrow] is
>     not specifically bound to the Gnu/Linux system.
>
>
> I think it's out of order to make implications of criminality on
> public lists
>
> I care about the security of my release signing private key because
> it's been used to sign hundreds of open source releases installed on
> millions of machine and is deeply embedded into the FOSS WOT. The
> security of millions of Linux users world wide depend on people caring
> enough to secure private keys like mine. I know there are Linux system
> admins with keying data also of great importance to them. I think it's
> important that people understand more widely how they can take steps
> to secure data like this using Linux.
>  
>
>
>     Spying and espionage existed prior to the invention of the
>     Gnu/Linux system, in fact you can even find it in The Holy Bible:
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Spies
>
>     More recently,
>     I don't recall people complaining about being arrested or
>     interrogated at an airport because they had a Linux sticker on
>     their laptop.
>
>
> On private lists, I've never been ridiculed or doubted (it might have
> helped that a couple of senior blue chip folks had flown back with me)
>
> BradLUGs always seem to me such an open community ready to share ideas
> and experiences about technology. This is the first time I've written
> in depth about this on a public list, and after being greeted by
> hostility, laughter and ridicule I can see why people don't seem to
> complain in public.
>  
>
>     Imagine people taking a plane going to Linux or coding conventions
>     ahahaha
>     Otherwise every one with an Android phone would become suspect !
>
>
> The law allows arbitrary detention at UK borders. Anyone who is
> detained is by definition not a suspect.
>
> Suspects have rights and must be either arrested or released quickly.
>  
>
>     Also, I was never asked to start my Linux devices in an airport.
>
>
> Well, jolly good for you :-)
>
> People are detained at UK borders in their thousands (according to the
> government). That most people don't understand the law makes it tough
> to talk about.
>
> And I'll shut up about this now. I only spoke up because people have
> expressed interest in the past.
>
> Robert
> <https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/bradford>
>
>
>

-- 

Cheers,

Stephane

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