[Liverpool] Software freedom (problems at the University)

Vladimir vladimir.jakubovskij at gmail.com
Fri Dec 18 05:19:53 UTC 2009


In that case I will raise the issue of the discrimination on the grounds of
my
moral beliefs. If you read the initial letter I sent to them - it explains
it all:

http://vovka-j.livejournal.com/46165.html

2009/12/18 Sujita Purushothaman <sujita at skhot.net>

> *IANAL*
> I think they cannot remove the EULA - it is an *end user* license
> agreement, and the students are the end users. I believe Mr. Ward was
> incorrect when he said that the EULA doesn't apply to you. The problem
> with EULAs are that nobody reads them, so they don't understand what
> they are signing away. When Sophos comes knocking on everyone's doors
> then people will realise just how bad EULAs are!
>
>
> > To Sujita:
> >
> > I do not know about a legal side of things, regarding requirement of
> > installing a third party software
> > with the absurd EULA to gain the access to the University facility (a
> > wi-fi network in this case),
> > which is being paid for from my uni fees. But I do feel that if this
> > is the case that their TOS
> > actually require that (actually, can anyone find them anywhere?), the
> > policy must be changed.
> > Either by removing the EULA from the Sophos antivirus binary
> > distributed by the uni, or
> > removing this step whatsoever. The only thing that I could find is
> > that document:
> > http://www.liv.ac.uk/csd/students/basics.pdf that states there's no
> > need to install any additional
> > software or need to register additionally to access the network (p.10).
> > This needs veryfing.
> > Furthermore, the people at the helpdesk today were not dealing with my
> > issue by the standards
> > that I always expect from the university. They said something like
> > that: we don't have time to
> > deal with you right now, as we are understaffed, any queries should be
> > sent to the email
> > of support services (as our supervisor) told us on a phone right now.
> > And to add a bit more of an insult to the situation - it seems they
> > banned my mac addresses
> > from the RoamNet too, as I couldn't connect to them today too.
>
>
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