[Liverpool] Media Server/Ampache

Sebastian Arcus shop at open-t.co.uk
Mon Jun 11 06:25:02 UTC 2012


Yes - that's true. I looked it up again and XBMC seems to be mostly 
client stuff.



On 10/06/12 22:41, Dan Lynch wrote:
> No it wasn't OwnCloud I was thinking of. Though a friend of mine runs
> that and I hear it's very good. I think of that more as a cloud storage
> and backup solution. I didn't realise it came with Ampache as well.
> That's very interesting. Thanks for the tip.
>
> XBMC is very cool and I'm meaning to set is up on an old machine to make
> into a media centre. I thought it was a client though rather than a
> server as such? I thought it could be run in client / server mode but
> that you'd need XBMC at both ends. A bit like MythTV can do.
>
> I think I may have lead everyone on a wild goose chase here. It was
> probably Subsonic I was thinking of earlier and confusing the license in
> my head. I'd be interested to check out OwnCloud in the near future. I'm
> going to reuse an old desktop as a file server and it could be perfect.
> My little flat is already brimming with old computers but one more can't
> hurt can it? Only the electricity bill :)
>
> Good luck with your setup Daniel. I'm sure it'll be fine. You can come
> and share all this gained wisdom with us at a meeting sometime :)
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Daniel Hartley
> <D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk <mailto:D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi Simon,
>
>     Thanks very much. I see the options about; I don't know how to
>     combine them so your advice is very useful to me. I will try this.
>
>     Have just got subsonic working over LAN successfully- having a few
>     problems portforwarding though to get it working with universal plug
>     n play- which I think then allows me to stream to phones, etc.,-
>     videos too, which have been working well over lan.
>
>     Will tinker with mpd and subsonic......slowly I learn- usually
>     things get working properly 6 months later....
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Daniel
>
>
>     On 10/06/12 22:06, Simon Chambers wrote:
>
>         Hi Daniel,
>
>         If it is just music that you wish to stream, you can setup MPD
>         to sync
>         with a shoutcast server such as Icecast, and you could then
>         stream that
>         direct to any device you wanted.  You wouldn't have playback control
>         directly of course, but it might work well enough for your needs and
>         it's fairly trivial to setup from what I can gather.
>           Alternatively you
>         can use the built in MPD streaming if you have a recent enough
>         version.
>
>         There's a tutorial on the MPD wiki.
>
>         http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/__Configuration
>         <http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Configuration>
>
>
>         Simon
>
>         On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 04:10:01PM +0100, Daniel Hartley wrote:
>
>             Thanks guys.
>
>             I've heard of Grooveshark. Unfortunately I have an iPhone
>             (embarassingly...)
>             and I don't think they're compatible. There are ways I could
>             do this through
>             uploading to cloud storage and streaming via ftp or
>             something, but I can't be
>             bothered waiting for uploads, etc. I also like the idea of
>             getting round this
>             more independently too- simple concept, just wish the
>             actualization was
>             simpler.
>
>             I thought there would be people who have a functioning media
>             server available
>             anywhere with access to internet already...
>
>             I've got the UI of mediatomb working....but now stuck with
>             that, unable to
>             figure out how to connect to it via another machine over lan!
>
>             A talk would be great on this! I've also been thinking once
>             my academic duties
>             have settled down a bit I would love to present an
>             autoethnography of my
>             experience of becoming a Linux user, leaving the proper
>             space of Windows,
>             learning, the tactics of Linux and the strategies of Windows
>             and apple. But
>             that's another email I guess...
>
>             Regards
>
>             On 10/06/12 15:32, Adrian McEwen wrote:
>
>                  Sounds like a talk on either of them would be good for
>             some future LivLUG
>                  :-D  (or, at least, I'd be interested in hearing more
>             about the options and
>                  what they do...)
>
>                  Adrian.
>
>                  On 10/06/12 15:23, Dan Lynch wrote:
>
>                      No worries. There's a Free Software alternative to
>             cloud services like
>                      Google Music that's quite popular but the name
>             completely escapes me
>                      now. It's not Ampache I don't think. That's not
>             very helpful. I'll keep
>                      thinking and I'm sure it'll pop into my mind again.
>             Anyone have an idea
>                      what I'm talking about? It's a music server
>             platform that you host
>                      yourself. The most popular alternative for people
>             who don't want to use
>                      Google.
>
>                      I'll be scratching my head over that trying to
>             remember all day. Good
>                      luck with Ampache and Mediatomb. They're slightly
>             different projects I
>                      think. Mediatomb is aimed at video as much as music.
>
>                      See ya,
>
>                      Dan
>
>
>                      On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Daniel Hartley<
>             D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk
>             <mailto:D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk>>  wrote:
>
>                          Hi Dan,
>
>                          Thanks for the reply. I'd seen mediatomb about
>             but it seemed to me
>                          a lot of users pointed to Ampache. Ampache does
>             look very good and
>                          very extensible. If I knew anything about
>             servers I might be able
>                          to get it to work- you will probably get a lot
>             more from it than I
>                          have so far.
>
>                          Meanwhile, I will get tinkering with Mediatomb.
>             Thanks for the
>                          re-heads up.
>
>                          Seems to me my need for a media server able to
>             serve/stream my
>                          music to me anywhere is a really current issue
>             and desire computer
>                          users have. It's basically a personal spotify,
>             etc., So it would be
>                          great to have a more 'autonomous' way of doing
>             it. It's all just so
>                          I can stream music from my laptop when I walk
>             into town at
>                          lunchtime each day.
>
>                          Regards,
>
>                          Daniel
>
>
>                          On 10/06/12 15:03, Dan Lynch wrote:
>
>                              Hi Daniel,
>
>                              Hopefully this isn't a completely off-topic
>             reply but I don't
>                              know much about Ampache. I've never looked
>             at it to be honest.
>                              I use Mediatomb to serve video and audio
>             from my machines
>                              across the network via DNLA. My PS3, other
>             computers and
>                              devices can consume that pretty easily.
>             It's all packaged in
>                              Ubuntu but works well on other distros too.
>             The web interface
>                              is also nice. Have a look at -
>             http://mediatomb.cc/
>
>                              Meanwhile I'm going to check out Ampache
>             and see what it can
>                              do. You might find it's a better solution
>             for what you want.
>                               I'm interested to play with it.
>
>                              Good luck! Maybe someone else can offer
>             more specific Ampache
>                              advice :)
>
>                              Dan
>
>
>                              On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Daniel
>             Hartley<
>             D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk
>             <mailto:D.R.T.Hartley at liverpool.ac.uk>>  wrote:
>
>                                  Hi Guys,
>
>                                  I've heard a few others mention using
>             media servers to
>                                  serve their media throughout the home
>             and across the
>                                  internet. This is something I would
>             love to figure out- I
>                                  finally tried over the past couple of
>             days, using Ampache.
>                                  I was wondering if anybody could advise
>             me on setting it up
>                                  so it actually works because so far I
>             haven't been able to
>                                  access music through any other machine.
>
>                                  Ampache is successfully set up on
>             localhost and catalogues
>                                  of music are connected. It will play
>             music via flash on
>                                  localhost but I can't seem to make it
>             stream, and can't
>                                  figure out the 'localplay' set up,
>             using VLC, etc.
>
>                                  The available support for Ampache seems
>               quite fragmented.
>                                  There is forums and support from
>             independent users but no
>                                  real 'manual' for unknowledgeable
>             amateurs like myself...
>                                  this is the first time I'm setting up a
>             server really- I've
>                                  messed about with servers a little in
>             the past, but most of
>                                  it is over my head.
>
>                                  Could anybody give some advice,
>             describe their own
>                                  experiences, or how else I might be
>             able to successfully
>                                  stream/serve music over the internet,
>             to all machines I
>                                  have access to, including a mobile
>             (unfortunately an iPhone
>                                  at the mo...)???  I'm not really
>             completely sure of the
>                                  system I would need to go about making
>             this happen, and how
>                                  I could set up Ampache to do that....
>
>                                  Any help really appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
>                                  Regards,
>
>                                  Daniel
>
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