[SLUG] OT: Browse the net super quick..

[Stephen O'Neill]

Ian Eade wrote:

>It also seems ironic that it appears that the website is written using
>java servlet pages, they have done for web speed what sloth's have done
>for the 100m world record.
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Easy on the napalm Mr Eade.

I won't be pedantic and pick you up on your acronym expansion - that'd 
just be silly. There are immense differences between JSP and servlets 
though as I'm sure you recall from your MSc.

However, I would counter that it's important to not confuse server speed 
with network speed. The server technology has no impact on the content 
delivery, and given modern server power any server latencies are 
negligable compared to those experienced on the network; or indeed the 
server forking mechanisms for sites which receive vast volumes of hits. 
I personally don't remember a time where I sat there twiddling my thumbs 
just because the website was written in JSP - or any other server 
technology for that matter.

I agree that JSP isn't the fastest executing choice of scripting 
language, which means that if a site is written in it then it is chosen 
for other reasons - code portability/re-usability; future enterprise 
integration; future scalability using Sun's tiered enterprise server 
(there are others on the list that understand this more than I).

Indeed, to bring on the point about requests being the main culprit for 
a slow server response; frequently those sites with high volumes are the 
very same that require this enterprise grade system to keep everything 
manageable - so maybe there lies a false assumption: because high volume 
sites tend to use tools such as JSP it appears that JSP is slow when in 
fact it's just the server being overloaded?

And, in fact I disagree that the hammondgallery.co.uk example was in any 
way bad. I thought considering that it has a menu system that only works 
for JS users is of far greater concern, and given that I don't recall 
many art gallery's looking that great when their paintings are covered 
in tarpaulin I think it worked well - and interestingly, as if it 
happened just to prove the point I found that the JSP parsed page 
actually loaded faster than the site itself!

>How come the list emails are being duplicated?
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Mine aren't. Maybe you're just special.

Steve
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