[Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
Olly Clark
olly at ollyclark.org
Fri Jul 3 14:52:23 UTC 2015
James,
Just checked my CPU temps, my cores are running at 59 and 60 degrees C
and I'm running in power saving as I have a low battery, so it may not
be that out of the ordinary!!
Olly
On 03/07/15 15:43, Arthur Garlick wrote:
> I recall that these processing state % are not necessarily linked to the processor frequency and voltage in a linear fashion (pretty sure they aren't in fact and the processors step down in voltage and freq in steps, so it's a case of knowing what that processor does).
>
> 80% might not have done anything at all to the processor freq and voltage. Maybe there was a small change made going to 99% from 100% and then nothing until you drop a lot more. It might be that for that processor the step down doesn't happen until 79% and the next step down at 50% etc.
>
> It's particular to each intel processor?
>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 15:16:34 +0100
>> From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com
>> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Fwd: RE: Saturday 4th July 2015
>>
>> Ay carumba! All those replies!
>>
>> From memory...
>>
>> Disassembly - I've stripped the laptop down before to try to remove dust
>> and fluff etc, so I'm fairly comfortable with that. I haven't removed the
>> heatsink and fan, though, and I haven't removed/applied thermal paste
>> before, so that's where I'm wanting to be more cautious.
>>
>> Laptop - it's a Dell Studio 1558 running an i7 720QM. It's been running
>> warmer than usual for a good few months now - just browsing or using Word
>> it will run at ~65 degrees. If it gets busy it will run into the 70s. I had
>> its maximum processing state set to 85% (I've reduced it to 80% this
>> afternoon). I use BatteryCare to manage and monitor power settings,
>> particularly as Speedfan freezes the laptop whenever I've tried it.
>>
>> Preparation - I have Arctic Silver thermal paste and a bottle of
>> isopropanol (shots all round if the procedure is a success!).
>>
>> I'll probably drop in around 11ish.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> James
>>
>> On 3 July 2015 at 14:50, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't seem too bad, we can probably do abit of diagnostics on it first
>>> before we take it apart
>>>
>>> NB mine is running alittle hotter than normal at the moment due to the
>>> heat, so it's normal.
>>>
>>> Olly
>>>
>>> On 03/07/15 14:46, Les Pounder wrote:
>>>
>>>> IIRC James has a Dell 1735/1737 laptop like my beast!
>>>>
>>>> Here is the service manual for the CPU cooling.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.parts-people.com/2011/12/05/dell-studio-17-17351737-cpu-cooling-fan-removal-and-installation/
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:
>>>> olly at ollyclark.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: RE: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:38:40 +0100
>>>> From: Olly Clark <olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>>
>>>> To: Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>> <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>>
>>>> CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> <blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If memory serves me James it's an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop isn't
>>>> it? When you say it's running hot, how hot are we talking? The
>>>> BIOS should give you some temperatures, plus there are a couple of
>>>> free apps you can use to monitor CPU and motherboard temps, maybe
>>>> worth playing around with those tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Olly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 Jul 2015 14:29, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>> <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My 2p is: Don't take the laptop apart yet!
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at the "maximum processor state" setting and experiment
>>>> with turning it down (assuming it's Windoze, but I am sure
>>>> Linux has
>>>> a similar tweak).
>>>>
>>>> You haven't overclocked it and forgotten have you?!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 14:05:55 +0100
>>>> > From: olly at ollyclark.org <mailto:olly at ollyclark.org>
>>>> > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi James,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'll be there tomorrow, I don't mind helping you take your
>>>> laptop
>>>> if you
>>>> > want, do you have any thermal paste and rubbing alcohol?
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Olly
>>>> >
>>>> > On 02/07/15 17:01, James Page wrote:
>>>> > > I think I need to stick some new thermal paste on my laptop's
>>>> CPU. Cleaning
>>>> > > out the vents etc hasn't helped to decrease the running temp.
>>>> Will there be
>>>> > > anybody around who could guide me through it? It's not
>>>> something I've done
>>>> > > before.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best wishes,
>>>> > > James
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 2 July 2015 at 13:02, Arthur Garlick
>>>> <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
>>>> <mailto:arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Hi,I've just been asked to help out on a Scout camp this
>>>> Saturday so won't
>>>> > >> be there :o(.
>>>> > >> It's been too hot to be indoors hacking this week. I've been
>>>> in my garden
>>>> > >> trying to get as far as I can hacking the tree stumps and
>>>> roots before
>>>> > >> deploying the chemical warfare.
>>>> > >> It's bad form to use a chainsaw on anything but clean wood,
>>>> even if you
>>>> > >> powerwash the roots the grit remains and ruins the chain, a
>>>> man should look
>>>> > >> after his tools and the chain can pickup something sharp and
>>>> fling it at
>>>> > >> your head... But the convenience and speed of a chainsaw
>>>> makes
>>>> cutting a
>>>> > >> stump out a lot less of a chore (actually it becomes an
>>>> enjoyable job!). I
>>>> > >> was doing this with two expensive chains and sharpening the
>>>> chains between
>>>> > >> runs last year, which is tedious and it doesn't take long
>>>> before the grit
>>>> > >> ruins the way the chains run in the saw and they have to be
>>>> dumped anyway.
>>>> > >> Cheap Chinese goods to the rescue yet again, at £5 a pop
>>>> for a
>>>> new chain it
>>>> > >> makes it economical to use the chainsaw (it's still scarily
>>>> unsafe though,
>>>> > >> plenty of protection req'd). I have two cheapo chains and I'm
>>>> still on the
>>>> > >> first one, I'll probably resharpen them once and then dump
>>>> them as running
>>>> > >> them too long is probably damaging the saw itself.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> After looking at the Makerspace progress I had another
>>>> look at
>>>> my lower
>>>> > >> ground floor space and decided I am going to do a proper job
>>>> same as Mike.
>>>> > >> I'll take the walls down to brick, tanking slurry, 25mm of
>>>> insulation,
>>>> > >> battens and probably I will go for OSB walls in this
>>>> workshop.
>>>> Floor is
>>>> > >> screeded, I have read that should go back down to the
>>>> concrete
>>>> slab for the
>>>> > >> tanking slurry to really bond in. I don't have any major damp
>>>> issues in
>>>> > >> this room and I'm loath to take out the screeded floor as
>>>> it's
>>>> quite well
>>>> > >> done. So I won't get a good tanking fillet between the wall
>>>> brickwork and
>>>> > >> floor (I believe the tanking will not bond in with the
>>>> screeded floor but I
>>>> > >> will come it from the wall for about a metre with the tanking
>>>> anyway). I
>>>> > >> am thinking of using the sheet you use to tank a shower
>>>> wetroom to overlap
>>>> > >> the wall/floor join by a metre or so. 25mm foam insulation on
>>>> the floor on
>>>> > >> top of the wetroom style tanking sheet and a floating
>>>> chipboard floor.
>>>> > >> Door frames will stay as is, most people including myself
>>>> will
>>>> fit under
>>>> > >> them without having to duck! OSB walls will be a great base
>>>> for a shelving
>>>> > >> and storage system. It's not a massive space so the costs
>>>> won't mount up.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I will be at Preston Raspberry Jam with my soldering iron
>>>> helping out
>>>> > >> younglings with a soldering project. I have promised someone
>>>> I'll have the
>>>> > >> ESP8266 project done and written up on the blog by then
>>>> too...
>>>> we'll see
>>>> > >> how that goes.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Regards
>>>> > >> Arthur
>>>> > >>> From: mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk
>>>> <mailto:mikehull2008 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>> > >>> To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>>>> > >>> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:49:22 +0100
>>>> > >>> Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday 4th July 2015
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Tyldesley Road will be open as usual Saturday from 10am.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Best regards
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Mike Hull
>>>> > >>>
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