[Bradford] Defcon 3: Debian thermo global nuclear init standoff [systemd vs Upstart]

Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldonkin at gmail.com
Tue Oct 29 20:42:39 UTC 2013


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:56 PM, David Spencer <
baildon.research at googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> And there's this:
> http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/
>

systemd is all about control

FWIW...

If I wanted to pwn Linux boxes, the way I go about would be through
initialization scripts.

But shell scripts are easy to read, and sys admins have a habit of poking
around in them to debug issues or to tweak them for local needs.

C (unlike more obvious alternatives like Python) is much trickier to debug
or decompile. System admins will in future need to approach corporates like
RH. Given friends in these corporations, if they were to insert any special
goodies then likely of being found out is slim indeed.

Good for the NSA. Good for revenues at the corps. All Free as in Freedom
Fries...

But who cares about being pwn'd by Uncle Sam if your box boots 1.3 seconds
faster...

All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds

Robert
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