[Chester LUG] Microblogging

Sat Feb 7 21:34:32 UTC 2009

Funny thing is Evan actually used to work for Microsoft years ago before
becoming involved with the FSF and completely changing paths, a fact he only
admitted to me after we'd finished recording the interview. I think he was
worried I might attack him if it came out on air hehehe :)

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Stuart Burns
<stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>wrote:

> I did try without the tick in the box, but it was a no go. Almost as bad as
> MS ;) JK
>
> 2009/2/7 Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>
> Yes I totally agree it should be the users choice. It's strange because
>> being licensed under the AGPL Identica is one of the few truly free web
>> services around. I know Evan the creator is very keen on not locking users
>> in, you still own all data and not the website, if you leave yo have the
>> right to take all data with you. I wonder what the terms are on Twitter?
>> More restrictive I bet, I'll have to look.
>>
>> We interviewed Evan for the podcast a while back so I might email him and
>> ask him about this. I always thought CC license was optional. Obviously I
>> was wrong
>>
>> Uggh
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Stuart Burns <
>> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I did try but unfortunately if u dont accept, you cant have an
>>> account. Not that i have much i wouldnt want to me, just the principle
>>> really.
>>>
>>> On 2/7/09, Les Pritchard <les.pritchard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > That's a good point Dan, I think most people don't realise that
>>> Facebook own
>>> > all the photos they've posted of themselves drunk at various pubs!
>>> >
>>> > It's a good discussion though, many people don't even think about what
>>> > they're clicking when they agree to licenses.  Would be interesting to
>>> see
>>> > if you are able to sign up without agreeing to that Stuart.
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Dan Lynch <biglynchy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yes that's a good point, I license almost everything I do under
>>> Creative
>>> >> Commons because I believe strongly in it but I can see why it would
>>> make
>>> >> others feel uncomfortable and it's a completely personal decision. I
>>> >> always
>>> >> thought you could sign up and just leave that box unticked, does it
>>> not
>>> >> let
>>> >> you sign up without a CC license? I've never tried you see. I assumed
>>> that
>>> >> was optional :S
>>> >>
>>> >> The CC-SA license is quite liberal, I usually use CC-BY-SA and
>>> sometimes
>>> >> the non commercial clause too. If we're just posting little updates
>>> about
>>> >> meetings in Chester and so on thought I don't see how anyone else
>>> could
>>> >> really make use of them in a damaging way. We want to spread that
>>> >> information. Most services state in their terms and conditions that
>>> >> anything
>>> >> you post is owned equally then by the operator of the website, like
>>> >> Facebook. If you post any photos on Facebook they then own them, there
>>> was
>>> >> a
>>> >> big controversy about that last year. I find that far more worrying
>>> than
>>> >> CC.
>>> >>
>>> >> As I said though I totally respect that some people won't feel
>>> comfortable
>>> >> posting under CC, that's why I thought it was optional. If it isn't
>>> >> optional
>>> >> then I can understand why you might not want to sign up :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Stuart Burns <
>>> >> stuart.james.burns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi Everyone.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Here is a problem. If you go with identi.ca you are obliged to sign
>>> up
>>> >>> under the Creative Commons licence, so all your comments etc are free
>>> for
>>> >>> others to use. I think that personally sounds dangerous. Do you
>>> really
>>> >>> want
>>> >>> people to be able to use all your comments for all manner of purposes
>>> ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://identi.ca/main/register
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2009/2/6 David Holden <dh at iucr.org>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Friday 06 February 2009, Dan Lynch wrote:
>>> >>>> > I agree that it serves the same purpose as a mailing list and I've
>>> >>>> > said
>>> >>>> a
>>> >>>> > few times that I can't understand what people find so hard or
>>> >>>> offputting
>>> >>>> > about mailing lists. There's no doubt though since posting on
>>> places
>>> >>>> like
>>> >>>> > Twitter the response and interest generated for LivLug has been
>>> much
>>> >>>> > greater. There's still a very active mailing list but for less
>>> >>>> confident
>>> >>>> > users or people newer to technology they seem to find it easier to
>>> >>>> follow
>>> >>>> > things through a website. It's casting the net wider that's all
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Fair do's, the more newbies the merier.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>  Dave.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> Dr. David Holden.
>>> >>>>
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