[Chester LUG] You've heard about the Google thing..

[Michael Crilly]

A while back, when I still had a profile, Facebook changed the look and
feel of their UI. Everyone (on my friends list) went mental and kept
complaining about it until someone posted a picture basically saying, "I am
outraged and annoyed that a free service I am in no way obligated to use
has changed the way it operates in a manner that doesn't inconvenience me
in the slightest" (or something to that effect). Good point. This is the
price of a "free" service - things happen their way - and, ultimately,
these people start looking at how they can make money from what they have:
your data. Google's infrastructure must be insane. They have to cover those
costs somehow, right? Anyway...

Stuart, I setup a Postfix/Dovecot server the other week. It was pretty
painless to be honest, but the issue comes from battling anti-spam (which I
have yet to implement). It's also not using virtual domains or users
because I hate the thought of running a relational database just for that
(what a waste of resources). I'm going to rip it down soon unless you think
it's worth keeping and building up? I'm happy to share access. I was also
thinking of pulling down the SMTP side of it and using something else like
MX Logic to outsource the relaying aspect. For $2/month per mailbox you get
triple virus scans and mental anti-spam filtering.

Also: "Thing is, gmail and it's interface and integration are good. The two
factor authentication is the icing on the cake." I have my own form of
two-factor authentication: a password I type, and the 38 characters my
YubiKey types. Pushing 50+ char passwords puts my Haystack calculations
into the trillions of centuries :P

I really like Google and their services. Sure they've been in the news a
few times for some pretty dodgy stuff, but I think that boils down to the
human element: people are stupid and do silly things from time to time.

On 26 January 2012 21:49, John <veedub at linuxmail.org> wrote:

> Soory could not get there..working on a computer..what a surprise.
> Dual booting linux!
> john
>
>
> On 26/01/12 15:00, Les Pritchard wrote:
>
>> Interesting stuff, the whole search engine world seemed to go very
>> quiet for a while - like everyone had given up and let Google get on
>> with it.
>>
>> The trouble with all of these is scaling and that's where Google got
>> it bang on. They've now got to such a size that all these other sites
>> feel so slow - even if we're just talking seconds!
>>
>> It's really good to have some more competition in this area though and
>> I'll have a good play. I do find it funny that this slightly
>> anti-Google conversation has included three Gmail users, I'm sure
>> they're watching us :-p
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On 26 January 2012 14:27, Ben Arnold<BenArnold at fsfe.org>  wrote:
>>
>>> Highly recommended, I've had it as my default for months as the search
>>> box
>>> in my Opera no longer has a Google entry :)
>>>
>>> I believe this is (to become) the default in Linux Mint n+1, probably
>>> just
>>> Firefox but I imagine they could do it for all the browsers they package.
>>> The bang search terms are ridiculously useful, "!github<search>" etc.,
>>> though "!google<search terms>" not so much...
>>>
>>>
>>> I've also come across Seeks, http://www.seeks-project.info/ and search
>>> with
>>> thier instance https://www.seeks-project.**info/search.php<https://www.seeks-project.info/search.php>,
>>> which I think
>>> that, as a decentralised service, aims to group users that search for
>>> similar terms so they can provide useful results for that group. Sort of
>>> like voting up, but not for individual searches. Yes, I'm still confused.
>>>
>>>
>>> Until later,
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 January 2012 12:52, Stuart Burns<stuart.james.burns@**gmail.com<stuart.james.burns at gmail.com>>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found out about a new search engine and have been using it for a week
>>>> or
>>>> so. Google like it used to be, without annoying ads, tracking, and
>>>> asking do
>>>> I want to upload to + etc. It also, most importantly has good privacy,
>>>> and
>>>> all sorts of customisable options, to include fully secure search, no
>>>> search
>>>> term passing etc.
>>>>
>>>> www.duckduckgo.com
>>>>
>>>> It's clean, it's simple, it's relevant and quick.
>>>>
>>>> Also it has some geeky toys http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.**html<http://duckduckgo.com/goodies.html>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ben Arnold
>>> Chester, UK
>>>
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