[Glastonbury] Delurk

Andrew M.A. Cater glastonbury at mailman.lug.org.uk
Wed Jun 11 21:50:01 2003


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On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:19:16PM +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
> Rob Cornelius wrote:
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> >Just a quick line to introduce myself.  I am a "veteran" web developer=
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> >with about 6 years of HTML experience under my belt. I am a fairly=20
> >recent convert to Linux having been using it for only a year a or so.=20
Have fun - it only gets better and better until after about the=20
eight year mark there's no going back :)=20
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> You've suddenly made a fairly young man (mid-30s) feel very old (15+=20
> years in IT)....
I'm just 41.  My first computer was a teletype with a paper tape and
a big red phone. (1978). My next at school was the prototype RM 380Z.=20
They didn't have computers at university, so I had to wait until I was=20
24 for an 4.77MHz 8086 with a 30M hard disk.  But if you tell that to=20
young folk now, they'd never believe you ... :)
> Ah well...  if "veteran" is 6 years, then what can I call myself??=20
> Suggestions on a postcard to.... ;-)
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> But seriously, selling second rate websites to people to make a fast=20
> buck is criminal... the web should empower people, and the=20
> responsibility to empower also lies with the web designers and=20
> architects who "help" these people make their business grow.... when one=
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> takes on a web project one should assume that you are selling a total=20
> package, one that will manage itself and empower the customer to=20
> maintain it himself (or herself -- whatever, before people pick me up on=
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> that)...
Web empowerment is all very well - but if folk want a whizzy website
NOW they call in a web designer.  Everybody's favourite 15 year old
can write HTML as easily as they can send SMS text messages - and often
with as much meaningful content.  Good design is worth paying for as
is good maintenance.  An awareness of fonts, typography, differing=20
spatial abilities, usage styles, learning styles and accessibility is
a bare minimum. If it can't be coded in a bare text editor, however,
it probably needs to be rethought. A good editor for the purpose
is any that you can use well - the _best_ is vi :)
> ..and if that means it costs a bit more upfront, then that's how it=20
> works. Because there are a lot of people who have been left high and dry=
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> by cheap cowboys whose marketing department is clearly far far better=20
> than their support.
Take care to distinguish here between fly by night hosting companies who
are selling cheap storage down to a price, with service to match - if
you have a site for $9US per month hosted in Singapore, for example,
you deserve all the hassle you get - and reputable companies e.g.=20
Positive Internet who charge a deal more but provide backup.  If you
just sell someone "some web space" and they don't ask the obvious=20
questions, they get clobbered. [In the same way that you could get=20
clobbered at the car auctions when you looking for a sub-=A3300 car=20
unless you were either ultra careful / extremely well informed.]
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> Sad.
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> Sean
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