[Gllug] Whinge

[will]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Masters" <jonathan at jonmasters.org>
To: <gllug at linux.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Gllug] Whinge


> On 30 Aug 2001 12:27:00 +0100, will wrote:
>
> > This argument always happens.  Yes you can do that, but only if you know
how
> > to, which is where windows is quite handy.  I am sick of the constant
> > windows is shit thing.  Windows has it's advantages and so does Linux.
>
> Name one use Microsoft Windows has for you that GNU/Linux does not.

That is not the argument, did you read the post?  This isn't an argument
about the number of things you can do with a box but the ease of use etc.
Both OS's do similar things or can be made to, they just do it in different
ways.

> > it *is* easier to do things like install programs on windows
>
> Wait until you're the next person to be bitten by Install Shield bug
> number 0x80040707 and then tell me that again. Oh and around the same
> time, Microsoft's Installer will fail too, the recovery program would
> work but it requires MSI to install in the first place (chicken and egg
> issue, thanks MS).

Yes, sometimes I come accross bugs in windows installs of programs, not as
often as some people seem to, but then it is still easy to install things.
I am not bashing Linux here, I am just saying that it is generally easier to
install programs on windows especially for a novice.  Instead of picking on
and listing the problems of windows, which is a pointless task and achieves
nothing look at the good bits and say 'how can we make the good bits work to
linux's advantage?'.

> > and it *is* easier to addnew hardware on windows
>
> ``Sorry Sir, the only way to overcome that particular problem is to
> re-install windows'' (paraphrasing what I have been told by various tech
> supports).

See the above comment.

> > the command line is preferred by some here, but is not in general
> 'user
> > freindly'.
>
> The sole reason being that people are brainwashed with what "is" "user
> friendly" by the evil likes of Microsoft Corporation.

Don't be silly.  I am not talking about MS here, try and focus on the topic
at hand.

> > It seems that a lot of people have problems looking at this sort of
> > thing from the point of view of someone else, less experienced than
them.
>
> I look at it from the point of view of brainwashed zombies sometimes.

On purpose?

Will.


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