Here's a quick grep for default.ida in our log files on just 3 of our servers since August 1st... http://www.positive-internet.com/codered.txt I make that 1662 Jake. P.S. I still say it's hype ;-) -- Gllug mailing list - Gllug at linux.co.uk http://list.ftech.net/mailman/listinfo/gllug