[Gllug] GLLUG ->Gnu Linux London Users Group

[Andre van der Walt]

I don't think that anyone here discounts the importance of GNU -
however, if you feel so strongly about this topic, why not start your
own mailing list.

Nick Hill wrote:
> 
> The issue is not about exclusion. It is not a matter of excluding those who use operating systems other than GNU or whose kernel is not Linux.
> 
> I don't think anyone should be excluded. If they are interested in what we are doing, then it should be fine.
> 
> However, most of what we discuss is to do with the GNU operating system whose kernel happens to be, most of the time, Linux.
> 
> It is reasonable, therefore, for the operating system name to be referred to, especially since the philosophy which brought us GNU/Linux and has given us a free alternative to proprietary software would benefit from such simple lip service.
> 
> Most of the systems you refer to do use GNU software. I have just logged on to a BSD machine which uses bash- an important GNU application. Many of the systems you refer to use te GCC compiler. Another core GNU application.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:05:40 +0000
> Dan Kolb <dankolb at ox.compsoc.net> wrote:
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> > On Sunday 17 Feb 2002 19:53 pm, Nick Hill wrote:
> > > > This is a battle that has been lost, in the wider world and on this
> > >
> > > The battle is only lost when your beliefs in what is right and good die.
> > > The battle has just begun.
> >
> > It's just a name. Why not the "Greater London Unix and Unix-Like Operating
> > Systems Users Groups" (GLUULOSUG)? I'm sure there's people on this list who
> > use Solaris and/or the *BSDs. Does this mean that they wouldn't be welcome at
> > meetings, just because Gllug is currently the GL *Linux* UG? Similarly, how
> > many people here are *not* from the Greater London area? I would guess at
> > quite a few.
> >
> > Doesn't calling it a GNU/Linux users group discriminate against people who
> > use Perl/Linux (there was the project to write all the user-land tools in
> > Perl, wasn't there?), or maybe even some people who've ported the BSD
> > userland to Linux?
> >
> > I would guess that most, if not all, people who use Linux on their desktop,
> > use X. A lot of those people quite possibly use KDE, that's built on top of
> > QT from Trolltech. Should they be using Troll/X/GNU/Linux? What about if they
> > use StarOffice under KDE? (Which, IMHO, would be a perfectly standard use in
> > most office situations.) Sun/Troll/X/GNU/Linux?
> >
> > If we use tools in the Cygwin environment to do most of our work under
> > Windows, should we then call it GNU/Windows?
> >
> > My beliefs in what's right and good are not altered by names. I couldn't care
> > if Richard Stallman called his organisation AOL/Time-Warner/GNU. As long as
> > it stood for the same principles as always, I'd be happy.
> >
> > Hmm...this post didn't really go anywhere, did it?
> >
> > Dan
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> > - --I reserve the right to be completely wrong about any comments or
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