[Gllug] Fedora and JPackage

Alain Williams addw at phcomp.co.uk
Mon Apr 25 18:47:33 UTC 2005


On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 07:42:52PM +0100, Matthew Cooke wrote:
> Pros of RPM:
> Normally the stuff is put in more standard distro places
> Wrapper scripts such as service start X are installed.
> Better support for swapping JVMs.
> Reproduceable install
> Easily Upgradeable
> Dependancy resolution

This is one thing that RPM does NOT do for you. If a dependency is missing
it just winges and dies. Debian's apt is infinitely superior in this
respect. You can download a copy of yum or apt for an RPM based system.

> Easy to to deploy the same configuration to multiple servers 
> dev/staging/production.
> The packager has often fixed issues for you.
> 
> Cons of RPM:
> Instructions and support from tomcat/apache/sun etc, might no longer quite 
> be correct.
> Making major modifications to packages after installation loses many of the 
> benefits of using rpms unless you rebuild the rpm yourself - config changes 
> are ok but not src.
> Lot's of people are more comfortable installing from src.
> 
> From: Richard Turner <richard at zygous.co.uk>
> Reply-To: Greater London Linux User Group <gllug at gllug.org.uk>
> To: gllug at gllug.org.uk
> Subject: [Gllug] Fedora and JPackage
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:07:53 +0100
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to know what people's views are on using the JPackage repo,
> specifically with Fedora, as opposed to manually installing Java related
> software. It appears that Fedora is set-up to support JPackage fairly
> well, but is it really wise to use a package repo rather than installing
> Java software to somewhere encapsulated like /opt/java?
> 
> What are the pros and cons of each method?
> 
> On a narrower spectrum, does anyone have any experience of configuring
> and running a development installation of APLAWS+ using a JDK and Tomcat
> from JPackage? My first attempt at that was a failure but I think it's
> because I didn't really understand my Tomcat installation; a side-effect
> of being able to use a JPackage RPM instead of doing a manual
> installation.
> 
> All thoughts and opinions gratefully received! ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard.
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