[Gllug] ed vs emacs/vi, was: ed vs emacs, was: OpenMoko Neo Freerunner

[Harry Rickards]

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On 05/10/09 11:09, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:01:10AM +0100, James wrote:
>> On 10 May 2009, at 09:11, Bruce Richardson wrote:
>>
>>> And sometimes there's a reason why none of them are available, like  
>>> the
>>> one Alain mentioned or something simpler and harser, like them all  
>>> being
>>> somewhere in /usr and that partition having been unmounted.
>> That's why the FHS says your mount command should be in /bin.
> 
> I'm assuming that /usr can't be mounted because of a problem that
> requires some work to fix.  If you need to be editing files to fix it,
> you are now stuck because the editors you are familiar with are all on
> that partition.
> 
>>> Most Linuxes do not install anything that provides /bin/vi by  
>>> default, so at
>>> this point ed and sed are what you are stuck with.
>> Personal experience of Linuxes says they always come with either vi or  
>> nano. Even debian.
> 
> I specified '/bin/vi'.  If you look at the standard packages that
> provide vi or vim (or even nano), they all place the binary in /usr/bin
> and so are no use in a rescue situation where /usr may not be available.
> There are packages you can install to provide an editor in /bin (in
> Debian, look for the elvis-tiny package) but if you have not taken this
> precaution then you are now limited to ed and sed.
> 
>> I may choose to install emacs instead, but the point is you always  
>> have *something*.
> 
> I think you should read with more care before commenting.
> 
> 
I agree that people should learn to use either ed or echo, but isn't
there a vi clone in BusyBox, which IMHO everyone should have installed.
I don't know where the default location is, but for me BusyBox is
installed in /bin/busybox.

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Many thanks
Harry Rickards

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