[Gllug] VACANCY: Junior Systems Support

[JLMS]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Hari Sekhon<hpsekhon at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Alison Young wrote:
>> Peter Corlett wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 Aug 2009, at 13:48, James Pearson wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Salary: Up to £18k
>>>> Location: Soho, London
>>>>
>>> Good luck with that...
>>>
>> My only quibble about the advert is the use of the phrase "A degree is
>> not required", since that does slightly implies "... but we'll hire
>> someone with a degree over someone without" and I wonder how many people
>> without degrees would then not bother applying since they know they
>> wouldn't have a hope (unaware that anyone with a degree wouldn't bother
>> applying for a salary that low).
> I'm surprised we're talking about degrees any more these days,
> especially in a practical job like IT, I thought everyone already
> figured out that degrees were a waste of time and money?

This is nonsense.

I was better prepared than most for certain tasks in my jobs thanks to
education I received in University.

Starting with proper programming habits and encompassing things as
data centre design, including air cooling considerations and
calculations.

I am not a Database Administrator for example, but thanks to my Uni
course about Database Systems I can understand what DBAs do and talk
knowingly enough about  it in order to be useful.

>
> On a lot of job ads they seem to be flexible, realizing it's better to
> just concentrate on experience/skills because they want someone who can
> do things for them and hanging a framed certificate by their desk isn't
> going to help with that?

Certainly having the skills is the most pressing need for most
companies, but they are forgetting the most important skills they
should be looking for: to absorb new technology quickly and use it
wisely.

Employers have become too lazy, and instead of evaluating the
potential of a prospective employee for the organization they content
themselves to tick boxes like if they were filling a Chinese takeaway
menu.

>
> The problem with this even as a first job even is that they'll lose the
> person very quickly anyway, free market economics an' all that.
>

Well yes, but somebody paying little I think is fully aware will have
a relatively high turnover, they are normally fully aware of that, but
sometimes you just have so much money in your budget and are prepared
for the vagueries of the market.
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