[Gloucs] Bad Karma

Brian Wilkinson bcla.wilkinson at googlemail.com
Tue Nov 17 12:21:41 UTC 2009


Mine was new install rather than an upgrade - /home was always on it's own
partition. I appreciate not all experiences will be bad - my first use of KK
was on a virtual machine on which it was awesome. The bugs that I've come
across on my laptop, however, I would definitely class as fundamental though
(do you really want me to list them?). I'm sure these will get fixed and I
haven't lost faith. Fedora has given me at least as many problems with
previous releases - every now and then you get a particular version of a
particular distro that seems harder to live with than others. Ubuntu have
made a lot of changes to the boot process for KK I know, and grub 2 is a bit
of a shock at first (no menu.lst). All good stuff in the long term and I
applaud the hard work that goes on - but in the short term it's a pita.

2009/11/17 Sean Keeney <seany at seanyseansean.com>

> The Ubuntu biannual releases are fantastic as long as you do a reinstall,
> not an upgrade. Just stick your /home directory on its own partition and
> you're good to go.
>
> There's nothing fundamentally wrong with KK - if we're going to use
> anecdotal evidence as proof it's broken then I can use it to prove it's
> brilliant. My work laptop works out of the box with the most difficult
> hardware ever - some weird ATI Mobility graphics, Broadcom wireless, even
> the hot keys and wireless toggles just work.
>
> Remember the init script and udev stuff has changed radically in recent
> kernels, I can't imagine how hard that would be to cater for in an upgrade
> situation. Just reinstall and be done with it.
>
> Sean
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andrew Oakley <Andrew.Oakley at hesa.ac.uk
> >wrote:
>
> > Gerd Busker wrote:
> > > Glyn Davies wrote:
> > > > Any one else having a bad time with Karmic Koala? My laptop
> > > There is something fundamentally wrong with KK.  After
> >
> > I had a hell of a time upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 so went back to 8.04
> > and stayed there.
> >
> > Ubuntu's LTS (Long Term Support) releases are excellent, especially if
> > you leave it until a couple of months after release. These are 6.06
> > Dapper, 8.04 Hardy and the forthcoming 10.04 Lucid. They work, they stay
> > working for 3-5 years, they get all the updates, and if you want
> > cutting-edge stuff you can usually find it on a Launchpad ppd repo
> > anyway (but remember to uninstall the ppd stuff when you upgrade to the
> > next LTS).
> >
> > I really think Canonical should stop promoting non-LTS releases as
> > anything other than test releases. With a six-month upgrade cycle and
> > only 18 months support, these releases are not suitable for anything
> > other than testing. They're fine as your secondary distro, to see what
> > cutting-edge features are being developed for the next LTS release, but
> > they're not suitable for reliable day-to-day work.
> >
> > LTS releases are the "stable" branch of Ubuntu. The non-LTS releases are
> > unstable.
> >
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