[HLUG] Mint 5 Elyssa & BusyBox conflict at Bootup ...
Christopher Evans
reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk
Wed Jul 9 14:43:51 BST 2008
This problem now sorted by moving Mint 5 Elyssa Linux to 1st in the Boot queue - You can either do this by editing the BIOS, or as I did, by physically swopping the data leads to the motherboard! - No conflicts for BusyBox to get in a muddle over then! - Phew! ;) Chris.
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> Subject: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 781, Issue 3
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> From: Christopher Evans <reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: [HLUG] RE: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 781, Issue 2
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> Julian,
>
> thanks for your swift reply, and kind offer ... If you can spare a little time, you might be able to shed some light on my problems with Mint 5 Elyssa ... It is up and running presently, as you can see, but with the other HDD physically detached, because otherwise everything grinds to a BusyBox halt at boot time ... As Mint 5 is a new release, perhaps it has bugs? Also, although I have been advised to try another install on a partitioned HDD, alongside Windoze, but I am very loathe to try this, because if it fails, then I'm really stuck ... I'm on 01568 708 921 or here of course (eMail). You would be made very welcome, with tea/coffee, snacks etc., so I leave it to your convenience, but knowing that you are a family man, please put me low on your priorities?
>
> Chris.
>
> > From: herefordshire-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > Subject: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 781, Issue 2
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> > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:35:08 +0100
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:33:06 +0100
> > From: Julian Robbins <joolsr at fastmail.fm>
> > Subject: Re: [HLUG] RE: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 780, Issue 1
> > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> > Christopher Evans wrote:
> > > Greetings All!
> > >
> > > pardon for butting in here as a newbie, but I feel very isolated presently ... I'm having nightmare problems with Mint 5 Elyssa, on a dual boot twin HDD PC. I can only get Mint to fire up if I physically disconnect the HDD with Windoze Vista on it. If the other HDD is connected, when I boot into Linux, BusyBox fires up, and then just hangs ...
> > >
> > > I'm doubly p*ss£d off, because after struggling with Ubuntu 8.04, I could at least get that to run alongside Vista, with Ubuntu reading the data on the other HDD too, BUT Ubuntu would only run at 1280 x 800 resolution. With a new nVidia graphics card, I installed Mint 5 and thought everything was fine, and it was, until I reconnected the Windoze Vista HDD ... Then BusyBox and limbo ... BusyBox is like a 'death rattle' to me, and I don't even know what it is supposed to do, other than driving me nuts, which it does very successfully ... Aaaarrrggghhh!
> > >
> > Hi Chris
> >
> > Well I was going to post a introductory post about being 'duly elected'
> > (LOL!) our new LUG master. But business first ...
> >
> > I'm probably the nearest to you, just down the road, past the two sets
> > of welsh water traffic lights, all of 150 yds apart; in Shobdon.
> >
> > I'm happy to come over one evening this week and take a look. Not
> > promising anything, but we'll give it a go. Alternatively you could wait
> > till next week when our next LUG meeting is due if you prefer.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Julian
> > > Help, pretty please?
> > >
> > > I live just West of Shobdon, on the way to Presteigne, so if there is anyone out there in Herefordshire Linux Group who can help, I'd be eternally grateful, and cross their palm with silver etc. I've tried everything, even posting on the Mint Forum, but no joy so far ...
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: herefordshire-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
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> > >> 1. Interest problem (David Shorthouse)
> > >> 2. Interesting problem sent twice because of email address
> > >> (David Shorthouse)
> > >> 3. Re: Interest problem (Paul Stenning)
> > >> 4. Re: Interest problem (Paul Maddox)
> > >> 5. Re: Interest problem (Paul Stenning)
> > >> 6. Re: Interest problem (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
> > >> 7. Re: Interest problem (paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net)
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> Message: 1
> > >> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:54:26 +0100
> > >> From: David Shorthouse <david at david-shorthouse.co.uk>
> > >> Subject: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <200807071954.27003.david at david-shorthouse.co.uk>
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> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > >> containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > >> world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > >> device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > >> was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > >>
> > >> 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > >> 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > >> is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > >>
> > >> This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > >> to the memory i have on mine...
> > >>
> > >> WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > >>
> > >> you should have backed them up ....
> > >> Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > >>
> > >> by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 2
> > >> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:56:13 +0100
> > >> From: David Shorthouse <kungfu at globalnet.co.uk>
> > >> Subject: [HLUG] Interesting problem sent twice because of email
> > >> address
> > >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <200807071956.13987.kungfu at globalnet.co.uk>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >>
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > >> containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > >> world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > >> device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > >> was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > >>
> > >> 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > >> 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > >> is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > >>
> > >> This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > >> to the memory i have on mine...
> > >>
> > >> WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > >>
> > >> you should have backed them up ....
> > >> Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > >>
> > >> by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 3
> > >> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:08:56 +0100
> > >> From: Paul Stenning <paul at vintage-radio.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: david at david-shorthouse.co.uk, "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <487269C8.7090006 at vintage-radio.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >>
> > >> Xytron data recovery are in Hereford. http://www.xytron.co.uk/
> > >>
> > >> They did a faulty hard disk for one of my clients about three years ago,
> > >> and retrieved the data fine. I can't remember the price but it was
> > >> reasonable for that type of work (not cheap, but we put it in as a low
> > >> priority job and saved a bit more by not having to pay for collection
> > >> and delivery).
> > >>
> > >> Call or email them for a price.
> > >>
> > >> My approach with something like this is to leave it to the experts if
> > >> the data is valuable. Fiddling when not 100% sure of what you're doing
> > >> could make things worse, and just using failing hardware can help it
> > >> fail further.
> > >>
> > >> You need to decide the value of the information compared to the cost of
> > >> having it recovered professionally and the risk of a DIY attempt
> > >> trashing it permanently.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> David Shorthouse wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > >>> containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > >>> world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > >>> device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > >>> was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > >>> 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > >>> is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > >>>
> > >>> This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > >>> to the memory i have on mine...
> > >>>
> > >>> WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > >>>
> > >>> you should have backed them up ....
> > >>> Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > >>>
> > >>> by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > >>>
> > >>> Dave
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 4
> > >> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:11:31 +0100
> > >> From: Paul Maddox <paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net>
> > >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: HLUG <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <C4983703.D21%paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > >>
> > >> David,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > >>> containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > >>> world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > >>> device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > >>> was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > >>>
> > >> Ok, there are two reasons it might have died.
> > >>
> > >> Flash memory chip failure
> > >> USB chip failure.
> > >>
> > >> If it's the first case, there's no way you'll get anything back, sorry.
> > >> If it's the second then buying an indentical one and swap the flash memory
> > >> chip.
> > >>
> > >> The thing with flash memory is that it's not like hard disk drives. It's not
> > >> *IF* it will die, only *when*. They have a finite number of write cycles and
> > >> sooner or later you're going to hit that.
> > >> Especially if you're writing a lot and often.
> > >>
> > >> A quick google revealed numerous places to get the data back.
> > >> And for significantly less than 700quid ;-
> > >>
> > >> http://www.dataphoenix.co.uk/?gclid=CNz63M_KrpQCFSLmlAodlCumtA
> > >>
> > >> FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > >> they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 5
> > >> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:31:14 +0100
> > >> From: Paul Stenning <paul at vintage-radio.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <48727D12.8090002 at vintage-radio.com>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Paul Maddox wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > >>> they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > >>>
> > >> Most data recovery companies work on the basis that if they cannot
> > >> retrieve your data you don't pay them.
> > >>
> > >> They normally send you a list of what they can recover, then you either
> > >> accept that and pay before they send the data, or if it does not contain
> > >> the stuff you want you decline it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 6
> > >> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:06:05 +0100
> > >> From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID: <BAY103-DS19BF479105A223377B419D9940 at phx.gbl>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > >> reply-type=original
> > >>
> > >> they can guarantee to give you your money back if they dont get 100% of data
> > >> back,,
> > >> i bet thats in the small print - worth £700?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > >>> they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > >>>
> > >>> Paul
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
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> > >>> List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Message: 7
> > >> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:46:39 -0000 (UTC)
> > >> From: paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > >> Message-ID:
> > >> <42745.158.234.250.71.1215506799.squirrel at webmail-srv1.servage.net>
> > >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Most data recovery companies work on the basis that if they cannot
> > >>> retrieve your data you don't pay them.
> > >>>
> > >> agreed, so PCworld saying they will get it all back for £700 is a blatent
> > >> lie, and showed their obvious ignorance on the subject. which was really
> > >> my point :-)
> > >>
> > >> in short, beware of people promising the world.
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:27:08 +0000
> > From: Christopher Evans <reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk>
> > Subject: [HLUG] RE: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 781, Issue 1
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> > Please can someone there help me? - I am having epic problems with Mint 5 Elyssa and BusyBox. I'm on 01568 708 921. Lammas Cottage, Lower Woodhouse, Near Byton Hand, Herefordshire, HR6 9NL. Mint Forum thus far have been of little help ... :(
> >
> > > From: herefordshire-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Subject: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 781, Issue 1
> > > To: herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:10:11 +0100
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> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Wanted - PC Power Supply (KINGTON) (Broomster)
> > > 2. New LUGMaster (Mark Broadbent)
> > > 3. Re: Wanted - PC Power Supply (KINGTON)
> > > (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
> > > 4. RE: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 780, Issue 1 (Christopher Evans)
> > > 5. Re: New LUGMaster (Paul Stenning)
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:41:57 +0100
> > > From: Broomster <broomster at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [HLUG] Wanted - PC Power Supply (KINGTON)
> > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <e8a7dcbc0807081341o117269b3oe472aa9ac0b36720 at mail.gmail.com>
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> > >
> > > Hi Gang!
> > >
> > > My partner's PC's power supply (inside her PC tower case) packed in during
> > > our house move.. I kindly got her Windows box up and running with the PSU
> > > from my tower. (yes I must be mad killing my own linux box to save her
> > > windows box - but she's active in a lot of pregnancy communities etc, and
> > > the internet is one of the few things that keep her sane during the day when
> > > I'm out at work, so it was sensible to keep the lady in my life happy as a
> > > first priority!!)
> > >
> > > However this noble act has left me with a dead Linux box of my own!
> > >
> > > If anyone has an old tower case, with a 350W or greater PSU that they no
> > > longer require, I'd be delighted to take it off your hands :-)
> > >
> > > I'd be grateful if you could see fit to rescue me from a life of sharing a
> > > windows box with a pink keyboard!!!
> > >
> > > I will buy one online if nobody has one free - but I know that many linux
> > > users have a stack of pc towers hidden around the house, so thought it'd be
> > > a good idea to ask here first!! :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Broomster,
> > > Kington,Herefordshire.
> > > Broomster,
> > > Kington,Herefordshire.
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:46:20 +0100
> > > From: Mark Broadbent <markb at wetlettuce.com>
> > > Subject: [HLUG] New LUGMaster
> > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <4873E02C.9010704 at wetlettuce.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > So my tenture of LUGMaster ends now. I only had one response to to my
> > > request for someone to lead this group, so I pleased to announce that
> > > Julian will be taking over operation of the group from this point forward.
> > >
> > > I would like to wish Julian all the best and am confident he can take
> > > the LUG confidently into the future.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Broadbent <markb at wetlettuce.com>
> > > ex-Herefordshire LUG Master
> > >
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 23:00:07 +0100
> > > From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Wanted - PC Power Supply (KINGTON)
> > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
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> > > i have several broken computers here at hatfield court
> > > but im not sure how many watts
> > >
> > > [george]
> > >
> > > ~ [g] ~
> > > ~ george at dicenews.com ~
> > > ~ 07970 378 572 ~
> > > ~ www.dicegeorge.com ~
> > > ~ (c)2008 ~
> > > ~ ~
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Broomster" <broomster at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:41 PM
> > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Subject: [HLUG] Wanted - PC Power Supply (KINGTON)
> > >
> > > > Hi Gang!
> > > >
> > > > My partner's PC's power supply (inside her PC tower case) packed in during
> > > > our house move.. I kindly got her Windows box up and running with the PSU
> > > > from my tower. (yes I must be mad killing my own linux box to save her
> > > > windows box - but she's active in a lot of pregnancy communities etc, and
> > > > the internet is one of the few things that keep her sane during the day
> > > > when
> > > > I'm out at work, so it was sensible to keep the lady in my life happy as a
> > > > first priority!!)
> > > >
> > > > However this noble act has left me with a dead Linux box of my own!
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has an old tower case, with a 350W or greater PSU that they no
> > > > longer require, I'd be delighted to take it off your hands :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'd be grateful if you could see fit to rescue me from a life of sharing a
> > > > windows box with a pink keyboard!!!
> > > >
> > > > I will buy one online if nobody has one free - but I know that many linux
> > > > users have a stack of pc towers hidden around the house, so thought it'd
> > > > be
> > > > a good idea to ask here first!! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Broomster,
> > > > Kington,Herefordshire.
> > > > Broomster,
> > > > Kington,Herefordshire.
> > > > --
> > > > Herefordshire LUG mailing list
> > > > Web: http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk
> > > > List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 00:02:30 +0000
> > > From: Christopher Evans <reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk>
> > > Subject: [HLUG] RE: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 780, Issue 1
> > > To: <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <BAY125-W522FF93D56C29C6760CFBFD4960 at phx.gbl>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings All!
> > >
> > > pardon for butting in here as a newbie, but I feel very isolated presently ... I'm having nightmare problems with Mint 5 Elyssa, on a dual boot twin HDD PC. I can only get Mint to fire up if I physically disconnect the HDD with Windoze Vista on it. If the other HDD is connected, when I boot into Linux, BusyBox fires up, and then just hangs ...
> > >
> > > I'm doubly p*ss£d off, because after struggling with Ubuntu 8.04, I could at least get that to run alongside Vista, with Ubuntu reading the data on the other HDD too, BUT Ubuntu would only run at 1280 x 800 resolution. With a new nVidia graphics card, I installed Mint 5 and thought everything was fine, and it was, until I reconnected the Windoze Vista HDD ... Then BusyBox and limbo ... BusyBox is like a 'death rattle' to me, and I don't even know what it is supposed to do, other than driving me nuts, which it does very successfully ... Aaaarrrggghhh!
> > >
> > > Help, pretty please?
> > >
> > > I live just West of Shobdon, on the way to Presteigne, so if there is anyone out there in Herefordshire Linux Group who can help, I'd be eternally grateful, and cross their palm with silver etc. I've tried everything, even posting on the Mint Forum, but no joy so far ...
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > > > From: herefordshire-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Subject: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 780, Issue 1
> > > > To: herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:15:09 +0100
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> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Interest problem (David Shorthouse)
> > > > 2. Interesting problem sent twice because of email address
> > > > (David Shorthouse)
> > > > 3. Re: Interest problem (Paul Stenning)
> > > > 4. Re: Interest problem (Paul Maddox)
> > > > 5. Re: Interest problem (Paul Stenning)
> > > > 6. Re: Interest problem (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
> > > > 7. Re: Interest problem (paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:54:26 +0100
> > > > From: David Shorthouse <david at david-shorthouse.co.uk>
> > > > Subject: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <200807071954.27003.david at david-shorthouse.co.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > > > containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > > > world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > > > device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > > > was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > > > 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > > > is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > > >
> > > > This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > > > to the memory i have on mine...
> > > >
> > > > WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > > >
> > > > you should have backed them up ....
> > > > Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > > >
> > > > by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:56:13 +0100
> > > > From: David Shorthouse <kungfu at globalnet.co.uk>
> > > > Subject: [HLUG] Interesting problem sent twice because of email
> > > > address
> > > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <200807071956.13987.kungfu at globalnet.co.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > > > containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > > > world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > > > device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > > > was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > > > 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > > > is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > > >
> > > > This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > > > to the memory i have on mine...
> > > >
> > > > WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > > >
> > > > you should have backed them up ....
> > > > Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > > >
> > > > by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:08:56 +0100
> > > > From: Paul Stenning <paul at vintage-radio.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: david at david-shorthouse.co.uk, "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <487269C8.7090006 at vintage-radio.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > >
> > > > Xytron data recovery are in Hereford. http://www.xytron.co.uk/
> > > >
> > > > They did a faulty hard disk for one of my clients about three years ago,
> > > > and retrieved the data fine. I can't remember the price but it was
> > > > reasonable for that type of work (not cheap, but we put it in as a low
> > > > priority job and saved a bit more by not having to pay for collection
> > > > and delivery).
> > > >
> > > > Call or email them for a price.
> > > >
> > > > My approach with something like this is to leave it to the experts if
> > > > the data is valuable. Fiddling when not 100% sure of what you're doing
> > > > could make things worse, and just using failing hardware can help it
> > > > fail further.
> > > >
> > > > You need to decide the value of the information compared to the cost of
> > > > having it recovered professionally and the risk of a DIY attempt
> > > > trashing it permanently.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Shorthouse wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > > > > containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > > > > world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > > > > device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > > > > was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Does anyone know anywhere does proper data recovery?
> > > > > 2. my second option run another stick the same as mine in parallel so that it
> > > > > is being driven and powered off the other device?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is quite a hard thing to do as it means wiring another usb memory stick
> > > > > to the memory i have on mine...
> > > > >
> > > > > WEll any one have thoughts please pass them on except...
> > > > >
> > > > > you should have backed them up ....
> > > > > Doh if only i had of thought of that one :( still in good spirits
> > > > >
> > > > > by the way PC world Guaranteed to get the data off if i paid £700
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:11:31 +0100
> > > > From: Paul Maddox <paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: HLUG <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <C4983703.D21%paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there do data recovery??? I have a very very dead usb memory stick
> > > > > containing cvs a gsp xml file and some other word docs. I took it up to PC
> > > > > world to get the data off they couldnt do it. I was going to buy another usb
> > > > > device the same so I could move the chip from one usb stick to another but
> > > > > was informed that this would blank the memory of the usb drive i have.
> > > >
> > > > Ok, there are two reasons it might have died.
> > > >
> > > > Flash memory chip failure
> > > > USB chip failure.
> > > >
> > > > If it's the first case, there's no way you'll get anything back, sorry.
> > > > If it's the second then buying an indentical one and swap the flash memory
> > > > chip.
> > > >
> > > > The thing with flash memory is that it's not like hard disk drives. It's not
> > > > *IF* it will die, only *when*. They have a finite number of write cycles and
> > > > sooner or later you're going to hit that.
> > > > Especially if you're writing a lot and often.
> > > >
> > > > A quick google revealed numerous places to get the data back.
> > > > And for significantly less than 700quid ;-
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dataphoenix.co.uk/?gclid=CNz63M_KrpQCFSLmlAodlCumtA
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > > > they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 5
> > > > Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:31:14 +0100
> > > > From: Paul Stenning <paul at vintage-radio.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <48727D12.8090002 at vintage-radio.com>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Paul Maddox wrote:
> > > > > FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > > > > they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > > >
> > > > Most data recovery companies work on the basis that if they cannot
> > > > retrieve your data you don't pay them.
> > > >
> > > > They normally send you a list of what they can recover, then you either
> > > > accept that and pay before they send the data, or if it does not contain
> > > > the stuff you want you decline it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 6
> > > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:06:05 +0100
> > > > From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID: <BAY103-DS19BF479105A223377B419D9940 at phx.gbl>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > > > reply-type=original
> > > >
> > > > they can guarantee to give you your money back if they dont get 100% of data
> > > > back,,
> > > > i bet thats in the small print - worth £700?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, there is NO WAY they can guarantee 100% of the data back, nor that
> > > > > they can deffinately do it. Don't trust them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 7
> > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:46:39 -0000 (UTC)
> > > > From: paul.maddox.mail-list at synth.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] Interest problem
> > > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <42745.158.234.250.71.1215506799.squirrel at webmail-srv1.servage.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > > Most data recovery companies work on the basis that if they cannot
> > > > > retrieve your data you don't pay them.
> > > >
> > > > agreed, so PCworld saying they will get it all back for £700 is a blatent
> > > > lie, and showed their obvious ignorance on the subject. which was really
> > > > my point :-)
> > > >
> > > > in short, beware of people promising the world.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:09:56 +0100
> > > From: Paul Stenning <paul at vintage-radio.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [HLUG] New LUGMaster
> > > To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> > > <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> > > Message-ID: <48746444.7040807 at vintage-radio.com>
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> > >
> > > Congratulations Julian, and thank you. Our LUG is in good hands. :)
> > >
> > > Mark, I hope you will continue to be involved as a regular member and
> > > Linux expert!
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Broadbent wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > So my tenture of LUGMaster ends now. I only had one response to to my
> > > > request for someone to lead this group, so I pleased to announce that
> > > > Julian will be taking over operation of the group from this point forward.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to wish Julian all the best and am confident he can take
> > > > the LUG confidently into the future.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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