[HLUG] Free SW day in Hereford High Town, Wales, Mars, Alpha Centauri etc.
Christopher Evans
reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk
Sat Sep 6 19:11:00 UTC 2008
Pete,
I hate to say it, but no surprises there really, with your best intentioned attempts - bureaucracy wins again ... (ever heard the term: 'Jobsworths' - pretty apt, eh?!) They all use Windoze probably :lol: ... This is why I hesitated 'opening my mouth' or adding my 'penny-worth' when you first mentioned it ... I think we might get a more 'positive attitude' from Powys Council, if you tried something similar in Presteigne or Llandod for example, but they are in another country of course ... (might as well be another galaxy or dimension too, eh?). The negativity of all this 'red tape' is quite depressing when someone such as yourself starts out with a constructive idea, what a pity - :lol:, again. I'm still learning about Linux of course, but whenever I have the opportunity, I try to encourage others to 'give it a go' (without mentioning my own inability to come to grips with MythTV, Wine, VMWare, VirtualBox, OCRopus etc.). If you are feeling really masochistic, you could offer to demonstrate Linux in the Jobcentre, and I'd gladly come along to help, but I think we would be forcibly removed before we'd even got started. Perhaps the library would be a suitable venue, if we could get around the 'Liability Insurance' issue? - Maybe the library is already covered? - One would hope so?!
Phew - I'm now going to go back to staring at my monitor for a few hours, wondering what I have done wrong with VirtualBox - :(
Chris.
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> 1. Internation FOSS day (Peter Linnell)
> 2. Audio from Capture Card to Sound Card (Christopher Evans)
> 3. Re: Audio from Capture Card to Sound Card (Morven Lewis-Everley)
> 4. Re: Internation FOSS day (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:41:01 +0100
> From: Peter Linnell
> Subject: [HLUG] Internation FOSS day
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> Dear All,
> Following on from the August meeting discussion about Free SW day I have
> now had a response from the council about space in High town; and there
> isnt any that day as its rammed with some craft fair. I will refrain
> from comments about Hereford being stuck in the past, though terrible is
> the temptation !
> So even if space was available there would be costs to be paid; I was
> ready to fork out for some power, but not ground rent!. On the
> application form there was no tick box for fundless group with no formal
> constitution wanting to give things away. Registered charities pay no fee.
> Then there is the mandatory risk assessment form including their version
> of hazard scale, frequency and severity calculations....
> The realkiller is the requirement for UPFRONT PROOF of ?5M public
> liability insurance.
>
> This kind of crap used to get me creative with finding ways to subvert
> it, but I wouldnt expect anyone here to share my hobby.
>
> So High Town is out for this year. I still maintain that we should be
> doing more outreach and advocacy stuff and will bring some more thoughts
> to the next meet.
>
> Mind the Gap
> Pete H@
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:33:41 +0000
> From: Christopher Evans
> Subject: [HLUG] Audio from Capture Card to Sound Card
> To:
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> Thanks for this suggestion Matt! - It has also been suggested to me by another, although 'internally' with the (supplied) cable with small multi-blocks at each end (I'm not sure what the correct terminology is for these) - I presume you mean with a cable with stereo mini-jacks at each end, externally? - I'll try both, but I'm still puzzled why this should be necessary, when it isn't with the supplied software which runs in Windoze? ... Perhaps 'tvtime' would benefit from an 'upgrade', or needs the appropriate Linux drivers? ...
>
> I've put Myth onto the 'backburner' for a while ... For when I'm feeling very patient ... Seems to be a problem with the 'backend' (wouldn't it be?! :lol:) when I try ...
>
> 'Tis a pity that a fully functional application to configure capture cards automatically at install isn't available yet with any Linux distro, as far as I know ... Multi-media never was my technical 'niche' - Seems as though it has to be with Linux for the moment ... Most new desktops come with capture cards these dayz ...
>
> Chris.
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>> 1. Re: MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :lol: - An Apple a day
>> helps you work, rest and play (matt stone)
>> 2. Re: Minty Freshness (matt stone)
>> 3. Re: Minty Freshness (Morven Lewis-Everley)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:53:27 +0100
>> From: "matt stone"
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :lol: - An
>> Apple a day helps you work, rest and play
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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>> 2008/9/4 Morven Lewis-Everley :
>>
>>> I don't know your set up, but for me I had to run the audio jacks into a 3.5
>>> mm jack on the capture card then another wire out to the line in on the
>>> sound card to get any audio.
>>>
>>
>> I was going to suggest the same thing :) What capture card are you using?
>>
>> Also, where did you stumble with myth?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:56:39 +0100
>> From: "matt stone"
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Minty Freshness
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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>> 2008/9/4 Christopher Evans :
>>>
>>> Mint works fine with nVidia graphics cards 6200 series - especially if you want to use a wide-screen monitor ... Not so good with TV-viewing applications though - I've tried and failed with: MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :(
>>
>> Until it blew it's caps last week i was happily using a 6200 with tv
>> out for myth. Now i'm stuck with an old radeon 9200 until i can get a
>> better card :( Note to self, don't buy cheapie cards off ebay ever
>> ever ever again.
>>
>> Stick with the nvidia proprietary driver instead of the one bundled
>> with X and you won't go far wrong.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:19:19 +0100
>> From: "Morven Lewis-Everley"
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Minty Freshness
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>>
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>>
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>>
>> I have a 9600 somewhere, and didn't used to have much problem with it.
>>
>> You can pick an nvidia 7 series up for about ?15 - ?20 quid these days off
>> sites like micro direct and ebuyer. Barely worth using ebay (Plus you dont
>> have to worry about Paypals lack of service) :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM, matt stone wrote:
>>
>>> 2008/9/4 Christopher Evans :
>>>>
>>>> Mint works fine with nVidia graphics cards 6200 series - especially if
>>> you want to use a wide-screen monitor ... Not so good with TV-viewing
>>> applications though - I've tried and failed with: MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO
>>> & tvtime :(
>>>
>>> Until it blew it's caps last week i was happily using a 6200 with tv
>>> out for myth. Now i'm stuck with an old radeon 9200 until i can get a
>>> better card :( Note to self, don't buy cheapie cards off ebay ever
>>> ever ever again.
>>>
>>> Stick with the nvidia proprietary driver instead of the one bundled
>>> with X and you won't go far wrong.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Matt
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:00:31 +0100
> From: "Morven Lewis-Everley"
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Audio from Capture Card to Sound Card
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> I have always found my capture card installed itself pretty easily in
> ubuntu, and I got the sound working first try.
>
> As far as I am aware the sound has to be daisy chained out of the capture
> card into the sound card, because the capture card is designed to save and
> compress the wave form it recieves, but then constructing it to play the
> sound would probably cause a whole heap of compatibility problems in itsself
> (Have you ever tried using a computer with two sound cards? I have, its not
> pretty :( ).
>
> The episode of Systm I posted a little while ago talks in detail about
> configureing Mythbuntu, that particular version of myth sems pretty
> intuative and seems to provide a lot of options.
>
> Maybe you can bring your box along to the next meeting? If it is in Hereford
> again I will be there.
>
> Mo
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Christopher Evans wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for this suggestion Matt! - It has also been suggested to me by
>> another, although 'internally' with the (supplied) cable with small
>> multi-blocks at each end (I'm not sure what the correct terminology is for
>> these) - I presume you mean with a cable with stereo mini-jacks at each end,
>> externally? - I'll try both, but I'm still puzzled why this should be
>> necessary, when it isn't with the supplied software which runs in Windoze?
>> ... Perhaps 'tvtime' would benefit from an 'upgrade', or needs the
>> appropriate Linux drivers? ...
>>
>> I've put Myth onto the 'backburner' for a while ... For when I'm feeling
>> very patient ... Seems to be a problem with the 'backend' (wouldn't it be?!
>> :lol:) when I try ...
>>
>> 'Tis a pity that a fully functional application to configure capture cards
>> automatically at install isn't available yet with any Linux distro, as far
>> as I know ... Multi-media never was my technical 'niche' - Seems as though
>> it has to be with Linux for the moment ... Most new desktops come with
>> capture cards these dayz ...
>>
>> Chris.
>> ----------------------------------------
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Re: MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :lol: - An Apple a day
>>> helps you work, rest and play (matt stone)
>>> 2. Re: Minty Freshness (matt stone)
>>> 3. Re: Minty Freshness (Morven Lewis-Everley)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:53:27 +0100
>>> From: "matt stone"
>>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :lol: - An
>>> Apple a day helps you work, rest and play
>>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>>>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> 2008/9/4 Morven Lewis-Everley :
>>>
>>>> I don't know your set up, but for me I had to run the audio jacks into a
>> 3.5
>>>> mm jack on the capture card then another wire out to the line in on the
>>>> sound card to get any audio.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was going to suggest the same thing :) What capture card are you using?
>>>
>>> Also, where did you stumble with myth?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:56:39 +0100
>>> From: "matt stone"
>>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Minty Freshness
>>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>>>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> 2008/9/4 Christopher Evans :
>>>>
>>>> Mint works fine with nVidia graphics cards 6200 series - especially if
>> you want to use a wide-screen monitor ... Not so good with TV-viewing
>> applications though - I've tried and failed with: MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO
>> & tvtime :(
>>>
>>> Until it blew it's caps last week i was happily using a 6200 with tv
>>> out for myth. Now i'm stuck with an old radeon 9200 until i can get a
>>> better card :( Note to self, don't buy cheapie cards off ebay ever
>>> ever ever again.
>>>
>>> Stick with the nvidia proprietary driver instead of the one bundled
>>> with X and you won't go far wrong.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:19:19 +0100
>>> From: "Morven Lewis-Everley"
>>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Minty Freshness
>>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>>>
>>> Message-ID:
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> I have a 9600 somewhere, and didn't used to have much problem with it.
>>>
>>> You can pick an nvidia 7 series up for about ?15 - ?20 quid these days
>> off
>>> sites like micro direct and ebuyer. Barely worth using ebay (Plus you
>> dont
>>> have to worry about Paypals lack of service) :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:56 PM, matt stone wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2008/9/4 Christopher Evans :
>>>>>
>>>>> Mint works fine with nVidia graphics cards 6200 series - especially if
>>>> you want to use a wide-screen monitor ... Not so good with TV-viewing
>>>> applications though - I've tried and failed with: MythTV, Mythbuntu,
>> FreeVO
>>>> & tvtime :(
>>>>
>>>> Until it blew it's caps last week i was happily using a 6200 with tv
>>>> out for myth. Now i'm stuck with an old radeon 9200 until i can get a
>>>> better card :( Note to self, don't buy cheapie cards off ebay ever
>>>> ever ever again.
>>>>
>>>> Stick with the nvidia proprietary driver instead of the one bundled
>>>> with X and you won't go far wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Matt
>>>>
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>>>> Web: http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk
>>>> List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire
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> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:04:06 +0100
> From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com"
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Internation FOSS day
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> as club
> HLUG should be able to put out a press release
> about things like Ubuntu releases
> and FOSS day etc
> and invite people to our meetings,
> the local papers do like ot have things other than tragedies to write about!
>
> [george]
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> From: "Peter Linnell"
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:41 PM
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> Subject: [HLUG] Internation FOSS day
>
>> Dear All,
>> Following on from the August meeting discussion about Free SW day I have
>> now had a response from the council about space in High town; and there
>> isnt any that day as its rammed with some craft fair. I will refrain
>> from comments about Hereford being stuck in the past, though terrible is
>> the temptation !
>> So even if space was available there would be costs to be paid; I was
>> ready to fork out for some power, but not ground rent!. On the
>> application form there was no tick box for fundless group with no formal
>> constitution wanting to give things away. Registered charities pay no fee.
>> Then there is the mandatory risk assessment form including their version
>> of hazard scale, frequency and severity calculations....
>> The realkiller is the requirement for UPFRONT PROOF of ?5M public
>> liability insurance.
>>
>> This kind of crap used to get me creative with finding ways to subvert
>> it, but I wouldnt expect anyone here to share my hobby.
>>
>> So High Town is out for this year. I still maintain that we should be
>> doing more outreach and advocacy stuff and will bring some more thoughts
>> to the next meet.
>>
>> Mind the Gap
>> Pete H@
>>
>>
>>
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