[HLUG] HLUG Open Disc for SFD

[Meijin]

Hi Paul,

If you had to remove either Celestia or Stellarium, take Celestia off.

As a (very) amateur astronomer, Stellarium is by far the best, most 
accurate and (you said it) user friendly software.

Rob

On 30/08/10 21:57, Paul Stenning wrote:
> I had a quick play with Stellarium and Celestia and couldn't really 
> get to grips with either of them, though Stellarium seemed to be a bit 
> more user-friendly.  Celestia is 35MB and Stellarium is 43MB so 
> getting rid of one or the other (or both) would free up some space.  
> Would someone like to comment as to which if either to keep?
>
> It's debatable how educational some of the extra stuff on the 
> educational OpenDisc is.
>
> It's also interesting how out of date some of the programs are. 
> GraphCalc hasn't been updated since 2003, and Abakt since 2006 (and 
> the website is now gone no no source code either).
>
> Thoughts and suggestions for programs, especially in the educational 
> area, are welcomed.
>
> Jools and some others probably won't be happy that I'm doing the HTML 
> in DreamWeaver and not Kompozer, but once it's on the disc nobody 
> would know!  It's what I'm familiar with and I don't have much tome to 
> work on it. ;)
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 30/08/2010 21:30, info at lifespacedesign.co.uk wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>> That just about covers the territory ! Excellent work.
>>
>> The contents of the Open Education Disc are listed at
>>
>> http://www.theopendisc.com/education/
>>
>> With what looks like more music/ multi-media and science teaching 
>> focus in
>> addition to the usual stuff you have already listed.
>>
>> Tuxpaint as a possible addition? Also two astronomy apps? - I don't 
>> use either,
>> so I can't say how redundant that is, nor how much space would be 
>> made by
>> dropping one. Your call !
>>
>> If in doubt throw in some OS fonts ! Jools is nagging me for using 
>> proprietory
>> ones... :-(
>>
>> Nice one,
>> Pete
>> On 30 August 2010 at 20:12 Paul Stenning<paul at sp-tech.co.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been sorting through the list we compiled at the last meeting,
>>> the latest OpenDisc from www.theopendisc.com plus Open Source Windows
>>> software that I use or am aware of and a bit of Googling to fill a
>>> couplke of gaps, and so far have the following to include on our 
>>> CD-ROM:
>>>
>>> 7-Zip
>>> Audacity (plus the LAME MP3 addon)
>>> Avidemux
>>> Blender
>>> Celestia
>>> Dia
>>> DVD Flick
>>> Eraser
>>> FileZilla
>>> Firefox
>>> FreeMind
>>> Gantt Project
>>> GIMP (plus help files)
>>> GnuCash
>>> Httrack
>>> InfraRecorder
>>> Inkscape
>>> KeePass
>>> Kompozer
>>> Notepadd++
>>> OpenOffice
>>> PDF Creator
>>> Pidgin
>>> Putty
>>> QCad
>>> Really Slick Screensavers
>>> RSS Owl
>>> Scribus
>>> SnapBackup
>>> Songbird
>>> Stellarium
>>> SumatraPDF
>>> Thunderbird (plus Lightning add-on)
>>> VLC
>>> WampServer
>>> WinMerge
>>>
>>> Regarding ready-made Apache/PHP/MySQL packages for Windows, at the
>>> meeting someone suggested XAMPP.  However I had trouble getting this
>>> working properly a few months ago and found all the XAMPP branding on
>>> error pages etc annoying.  I use WampServer on my Windows XP PC for all
>>> my web development work and find it to be reliable and easy to
>>> configure.  Plus you can add in different versions of PHP, MySQL etc 
>>> and
>>> switch between them.  So I intend to include WampServer and not 
>>> XAMPP on
>>> the CD-ROM.
>>>
>>> Paint.NET, although free for any purpose including commercial, is not
>>> Open Source and the source code is not available.  See www.getpaint.net
>>> for details.  For this reason we can't include it on our OpenDisc.  :(
>>>
>>> The collection as above is 621MB.  If we estimate 20MB-30MB for the 
>>> HTML
>>> front-end with a small screenshot of each program (I'm just going to
>>> have the index.html page launch in a browser) that still gives us
>>> 50-60MB free (assuming 700MB CD-ROM).
>>>
>>> Maybe we can put some educational programs in that space and not need a
>>> separate disc for that?  I have no idea what would be good to 
>>> include or
>>> how big they are though.
>>>
>>> The ones on OpenDisc are CaRMetal (Interactive geometry program), Guido
>>> van Robot (Introduction to programming for beginners) and Maxima
>>> (Computer algebra system) all of which sound somewhat obscure to me.
>>> There is also TuxPaint, TuxMath and TuxType in other sections.
>>>
>>> If we need a bit more space we can always get rid of a couple of the
>>> more obscure programs like FreeMind (8.7MB), WampServer (16MB) and
>>> Eraser (9MB) or unnecessary bulky stuff like the GIMP help files
>>> installer (23MB).  Potentially we could have over 110MB free for
>>> educational programs.
>>>
>>> I'd like to include PDF manuals for programs where these are available
>>> if there's space, but I'm not that bothered if not.  I haven't started
>>> looking for these yet.It's a deeply considerate thought, but could 
>>> it be just
>>> known good hyperlinks to downloads?
>>
>>>
>>> Comments and suggestions for programs to include, exclude, change etc
>>> are welcome.  If we can get the program list finalised this week I can
>>> then work on the front-end and compiling the whole thing next weekend
>>> and hopefully have something to show at the meeting on the 8th 
>>> September.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>>
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