[HLUG] Herefordshire Digest, Vol 1330, Issue 2

Tony Sales tony.sales at rncb.ac.uk
Sat Jul 23 21:28:27 UTC 2011 

Hi Hevin, thanks for the feedback, I am aware of the first error message and I think I can fix that quite easily, I got  a bit over-zealous with the editing of config files and removed a bit too much which made it switch to the default lxde right-click menu instead of a restricted openbox one. The web-browser I restricted to root users - I also did this to the terminal, but it seems the right-click terminal launcher bypasses this - but again fixing the previous error will fix this one as well. The problem with the icons is something I need to look at again - they use absolute x/y coordinates and I may need to use relative ones, or at least all them to resize depending on the resolution. I hadn't noticed the screen-saver issue - but there are screensavers installed - perhaps the random selection picked  one that was missing  - I will check this out. You should be able to configure the printers from the desktop icon (if you can see it) but I may have taken away printing priveleges while I was locking it down - I may have also prevented the mounting of drives. In theory the user should be able to print and save stuff to USB because no admin rights will be required, but I didn't test this out yet. I basically ran out of time on Friday so decided to publish and be damned - hopefully by Wednesday I will have ironed out most of these issues - but there are lots of things I want to get other people opinions on... Feedback on the programs themselves by younger children would be good - some of them are based at 2-3 year olds - others at 10 year olds.
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From: herefordshire-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [herefordshire-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] on behalf of Kevin Dontenville [kevin at opensure.net]
Sent: 23 July 2011 01:18
To: herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Herefordshire Digest, Vol 1330, Issue 2

Hi Tony


Tried running the iso up and it boots well and feels quick and responsive.


So far looks like a few simple issues are showing:


1) Openbox gives me an xml error in /usr/share/lubuntu/openbox/menuxml on line 1 it says it expects a start tag '<' not found.


That may be connected with the right click menu that offers terminal, browser, ObConf etc


2) Web browser using the right click menu doesn't run but terminal and others do.


3) Some of the icons on a v small screen 1024x600 are falling off the bottom eg 1000 eee I have.


4) Screensaver also reports an error of no images available, but promptly displays a default ;-)


I will go over the apps and check them through to check they are all behaving.


I will try it on half a dozen different boxes and screens around here to see if there are any typical hardware issues, hopefully over the weekend. Is there anything on printing and perhaps saving states to some kind of external persistence file? Keeping track of performance and comparatives in a class environment could be important.


I will also ask Polly, my 9 yr old to have a look and see how quickly she gets it ;-) but it looks like a great start to me!


Kevin

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Tuxedu ready for testing! (Sarah Chard)
2. Re: Tuxedu ready for testing! (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
3. Re: Tuxedu ready for testing! (Sarah Chard)
4. Re: Tuxedu ready for testing! (dicegeorge at hotmail dot com)
5. Re: Tuxedu ready for testing! (Sarah Chard)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:07:49 +0100
From: Sarah Chard <sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1311368869.13595.52.camel at street-desktop>
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yes that's what i use

just a note that with my eee - you have to press esc at the bios screen
to get to 'choose hdd or usb boot' - going in via F2 will not make it
boot from usb
I always forget this and spend 10 minutes wondering why it doesn't boot
--
Sarah
ISFD Sept 17, 2011 - http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is
Schools Project - http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt



On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 21:59 +0100, Martin Pendlebury wrote:

> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
>
> This'll do the trick, think you have to format the drive to fat32
> before
> though, just use gparted for that
>
> On 22 July 2011 21:57, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com
> <dicegeorge at hotmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I have the iso downloaded on my ubuntu10.04 machine,
> > how do i make a bootable usb stick out of it?


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:23:56 +0100
From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <DUB108-ds1471E9FF6C022E694FA224D94E0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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iv got it but it doesnt work-
when I search for a DiskImage ISO and click [...]
all it can find is [Computer] and [ \root ]
?



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From: "Martin Pendlebury" <martpendle at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:59 PM
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!

> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
>
> This'll do the trick, think you have to format the drive to fat32 before
> though, just use gparted for that
>
> On 22 July 2011 21:57, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com
> <dicegeorge at hotmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> I have the iso downloaded on my ubuntu10.04 machine,
>> how do i make a bootable usb stick out of it?
>>
>> [g]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------**--------------------
>> From: "Sarah Chard"
>> <sarah at streetentertainers.co.**uk<sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
>> >
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:45 PM
>>
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.**org.uk<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
>>
>>
>> Pete
>>> I've just downloaded the iso - I'm running it off a usb as discovered I
>>> had no blank dvd discs.
>>> We are around this sunday if you want to come over and copy it to a
>>> stick that's fine
>>>
>>> Tony
>>> it looks good even though there is a bit of a problem as you say with
>>> the icons on a small screen - I am running from a netbook the only
>>> problem
>>> I had on a first look was
>>> a warning that - " KDE detected one or more internal sound devices were
>>> removed - do you want kde to permanently forget them"
>>> because my screen is so small if I minimized a game it disappeared and I
>>> could not get it back (that's probably me not knowing the right key
>>> combo to retrieve it ) but as there is no bottom bar on your
>>> desktop .png I wonder where do minimised icons show on a larger screen?
>>>
>>> I'll have a play around over the weekend - Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sarah
>>> ISFD Sept 17, 2011 -
>>> http://piratepad.net/**n7Tuzn49Is<http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is>
>>> Schools Project -
>>> http://piratepad.net/**V3NK9CQWNt<http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:53 +0100, Pete Linnell wrote:
>>>
>>> Sadly my bandwidth won't support that size download.
>>>>
>>> --
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>>> List:
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:40:18 +0100
From: Sarah Chard <sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1311370818.23816.5.camel at street-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

it should show your home directory
are you getting a typical browse box with a left menu offering search,
recently used root, desktop, filesystem as options to choose?

Sarah
ISFD Sept 17, 2011 - http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is
Schools Project - http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt



On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:23 +0100, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com wrote:

> iv got it but it doesnt work-
> when I search for a DiskImage ISO and click [...]
> all it can find is [Computer] and [ \root ]
> ?
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Martin Pendlebury" <martpendle at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:59 PM
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
>
> > http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > This'll do the trick, think you have to format the drive to fat32 before
> > though, just use gparted for that
> >
> > On 22 July 2011 21:57, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com
> > <dicegeorge at hotmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> I have the iso downloaded on my ubuntu10.04 machine,
> >> how do i make a bootable usb stick out of it?
> >>
> >> [g]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------**--------------------
> >> From: "Sarah Chard"
> >> <sarah at streetentertainers.co.**uk<sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
> >> >
> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:45 PM
> >>
> >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.**org.uk<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >> >
> >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
> >>
> >>
> >> Pete
> >>> I've just downloaded the iso - I'm running it off a usb as discovered I
> >>> had no blank dvd discs.
> >>> We are around this sunday if you want to come over and copy it to a
> >>> stick that's fine
> >>>
> >>> Tony
> >>> it looks good even though there is a bit of a problem as you say with
> >>> the icons on a small screen - I am running from a netbook the only
> >>> problem
> >>> I had on a first look was
> >>> a warning that - " KDE detected one or more internal sound devices were
> >>> removed - do you want kde to permanently forget them"
> >>> because my screen is so small if I minimized a game it disappeared and I
> >>> could not get it back (that's probably me not knowing the right key
> >>> combo to retrieve it ) but as there is no bottom bar on your
> >>> desktop .png I wonder where do minimised icons show on a larger screen?
> >>>
> >>> I'll have a play around over the weekend - Sarah
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sarah
> >>> ISFD Sept 17, 2011 -
> >>> http://piratepad.net/**n7Tuzn49Is<http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is>
> >>> Schools Project -
> >>> http://piratepad.net/**V3NK9CQWNt<http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:53 +0100, Pete Linnell wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sadly my bandwidth won't support that size download.
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Herefordshire LUG mailing list
> >>> Web:
> >>> http://www.herefordshire.lug.**org.uk<http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk>
> >>> List:
> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/herefordshire<https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire>
> >>>
> >>>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 22:52:24 +0100
From: "dicegeorge at hotmail dot com" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
To: <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <DUB108-ds626BFE7CFB446FBA3E564D94E0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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No.
The browse box is titled:
[Open Disk Image File]
but it can only see [Computer] and [root]

maybe i'll have to try the dvd option

[g]


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From: "Sarah Chard" <sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:40 PM
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!

> it should show your home directory
> are you getting a typical browse box with a left menu offering search,
> recently used root, desktop, filesystem as options to choose?
>
> Sarah
> ISFD Sept 17, 2011 - http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is
> Schools Project - http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:23 +0100, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com wrote:
>
>> iv got it but it doesnt work-
>> when I search for a DiskImage ISO and click [...]
>> all it can find is [Computer] and [ \root ]
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Martin Pendlebury" <martpendle at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:59 PM
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
>>
>> > http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
>> >
>> > This'll do the trick, think you have to format the drive to fat32
>> > before
>> > though, just use gparted for that
>> >
>> > On 22 July 2011 21:57, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com
>> > <dicegeorge at hotmail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have the iso downloaded on my ubuntu10.04 machine,
>> >> how do i make a bootable usb stick out of it?
>> >>
>> >> [g]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------**--------------------
>> >> From: "Sarah Chard"
>> >> <sarah at streetentertainers.co.**uk<sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
>> >> >
>> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:45 PM
>> >>
>> >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>> >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.**org.uk<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
>> >> >
>> >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Pete
>> >>> I've just downloaded the iso - I'm running it off a usb as discovered
>> >>> I
>> >>> had no blank dvd discs.
>> >>> We are around this sunday if you want to come over and copy it to a
>> >>> stick that's fine
>> >>>
>> >>> Tony
>> >>> it looks good even though there is a bit of a problem as you say with
>> >>> the icons on a small screen - I am running from a netbook the only
>> >>> problem
>> >>> I had on a first look was
>> >>> a warning that - " KDE detected one or more internal sound devices
>> >>> were
>> >>> removed - do you want kde to permanently forget them"
>> >>> because my screen is so small if I minimized a game it disappeared
>> >>> and I
>> >>> could not get it back (that's probably me not knowing the right key
>> >>> combo to retrieve it ) but as there is no bottom bar on your
>> >>> desktop .png I wonder where do minimised icons show on a larger
>> >>> screen?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll have a play around over the weekend - Sarah
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sarah
>> >>> ISFD Sept 17, 2011 -
>> >>> http://piratepad.net/**n7Tuzn49Is<http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is>
>> >>> Schools Project -
>> >>> http://piratepad.net/**V3NK9CQWNt<http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:53 +0100, Pete Linnell wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Sadly my bandwidth won't support that size download.
>> >>>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Herefordshire LUG mailing list
>> >>> Web:
>> >>> http://www.herefordshire.lug.**org.uk<http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk>
>> >>> List:
>> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/herefordshire<https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> --
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:07:05 +0100
From: Sarah Chard <sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Message-ID: <1311372425.25105.7.camel at street-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

don't know why that's happening to you - perhaps a more tech minded list
member can help otherwise go for the dvd or
I think in 10.04 you can also use start up disk creator which is in
system >admin - but I have always used unetbootin
--
Sarah
ISFD Sept 17, 2011 - http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is
Schools Project - http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt



On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:52 +0100, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com wrote:

> No.
> The browse box is titled:
> [Open Disk Image File]
> but it can only see [Computer] and [root]
>
> maybe i'll have to try the dvd option
>
> [g]
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sarah Chard" <sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:40 PM
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
>
> > it should show your home directory
> > are you getting a typical browse box with a left menu offering search,
> > recently used root, desktop, filesystem as options to choose?
> >
> > Sarah
> > ISFD Sept 17, 2011 - http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is
> > Schools Project - http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 22:23 +0100, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com wrote:
> >
> >> iv got it but it doesnt work-
> >> when I search for a DiskImage ISO and click [...]
> >> all it can find is [Computer] and [ \root ]
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "Martin Pendlebury" <martpendle at gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:59 PM
> >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group." <herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
> >>
> >> > http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
> >> >
> >> > This'll do the trick, think you have to format the drive to fat32
> >> > before
> >> > though, just use gparted for that
> >> >
> >> > On 22 July 2011 21:57, dicegeorge at hotmail dot com
> >> > <dicegeorge at hotmail.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have the iso downloaded on my ubuntu10.04 machine,
> >> >> how do i make a bootable usb stick out of it?
> >> >>
> >> >> [g]
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------**--------------------
> >> >> From: "Sarah Chard"
> >> >> <sarah at streetentertainers.co.**uk<sarah at streetentertainers.co.uk>
> >> >> >
> >> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:45 PM
> >> >>
> >> >> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
> >> >> <herefordshire at mailman.lug.**org.uk<herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk>
> >> >> >
> >> >> Subject: Re: [HLUG] Tuxedu ready for testing!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Pete
> >> >>> I've just downloaded the iso - I'm running it off a usb as discovered
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> had no blank dvd discs.
> >> >>> We are around this sunday if you want to come over and copy it to a
> >> >>> stick that's fine
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Tony
> >> >>> it looks good even though there is a bit of a problem as you say with
> >> >>> the icons on a small screen - I am running from a netbook the only
> >> >>> problem
> >> >>> I had on a first look was
> >> >>> a warning that - " KDE detected one or more internal sound devices
> >> >>> were
> >> >>> removed - do you want kde to permanently forget them"
> >> >>> because my screen is so small if I minimized a game it disappeared
> >> >>> and I
> >> >>> could not get it back (that's probably me not knowing the right key
> >> >>> combo to retrieve it ) but as there is no bottom bar on your
> >> >>> desktop .png I wonder where do minimised icons show on a larger
> >> >>> screen?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'll have a play around over the weekend - Sarah
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Sarah
> >> >>> ISFD Sept 17, 2011 -
> >> >>> http://piratepad.net/**n7Tuzn49Is<http://piratepad.net/n7Tuzn49Is>
> >> >>> Schools Project -
> >> >>> http://piratepad.net/**V3NK9CQWNt<http://piratepad.net/V3NK9CQWNt>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:53 +0100, Pete Linnell wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sadly my bandwidth won't support that size download.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Herefordshire LUG mailing list
> >> >>> Web:
> >> >>> http://www.herefordshire.lug.**org.uk<http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk>
> >> >>> List:
> >> >>> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/herefordshire<https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Herefordshire LUG mailing list
> >> >> Web:
> >> >> http://www.herefordshire.lug.**org.uk<http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk>
> >> >> List:
> >> >> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/herefordshire<https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire>
> >> >>
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> >> > Web: http://www.herefordshire.lug.org.uk
> >> > List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
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> >> List: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/herefordshire
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