[IOML] What's everyone up to this weekend?

Ron Hickson ron_hickson at manx.net
Wed Apr 7 19:59:40 BST 2004

Hi All

Last msg prompted a reaction.  I'm just a Linux user (previously Warp),
never used windows since 3.1.1  and occasionally need help with getting
bits of hardware to work on Mdk 9.2.   I suspect I would be way out of
my depth.  Enjoy!



On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 18:58, Gregory Smirnov wrote:
> Hello Guys,
> I'm very new to your list and Isle of Man. At the moment I'm staying in
> Douglas. So what day and time do you think to meet? It would be great on
> Friday, because on Saturday I'm flying to London.
> Your discussion is very interesting, since I'm collecting some information
> about business oportunities. Would be great to find out more about IOM.
> I'm Linux sysadmin and php programmer as major.
> Hope to see you soon.
> Gregory
> On Wednesday 07 April 2004 8:24 am, Dylan Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Chris Bryden wrote:
> > > breaks (but I could be wrong, advice pending), I looked into hosting on
> > > the IOM for my last project back in 2001, the quote that I got was for
> > > £1500pa to put a 1U linux server in MT's web park, I have no idea what it
> > > is now,
> >
> > Last time I looked, a dedicated server was around 3600pa with only 10gbit
> > transfer per month. I can get five servers with 700gbit/month *each* with
> > my old ISP in Houston for that much. Hosting here is so uncompetitive it's
> > not even funny, and for an Internet-based company, any serious internet
> > presence wipes out any benefits that the tax breaks may have given you.
> >
> > This just has to be addressed before the IOM can diversify and get
> > non-finance Internet business.
> >
> > > not out of the ball-park but still pretty darn expensive. - That's why we
> > > hosted in the UK - Should look at the cost of getting the highest
> > > bandwith pipe to our own facility and hosting there? Fuck, I'll do up the
> > > back sheds and put a few racks in if I need to ;-)
> >
> > If the cost of hosting made your eyes water, the cost of a 2Mbit
> > bidirection pipe from MT will make your wossnames turn! Think around
> > 25K/year for 2Mbit, reducing by around 30% or so with a 3 year contractline of business that used the internet as a transfer
> > medium, but it's simply not possible to make a profit with bandwidth
> > costing that much (put it this way, it'd be cheaper for us to put a 2Mbit
> > leased line in direct to each customer, since those are actually
> > reasonably priced). Or possibly buy 4 ADSL lines and load balance between
> > them.
> > It's almost as if MT doesn't understand the concept of packet switching.
> >
> > Having said that, things may get better since competition is now afoot.
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