[Klug-general] Re: Mark Shuttleworth interview

Alan Pope alan at popey.com
Thu Aug 10 20:11:51 BST 2006

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:35:53PM +0100, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> It wasn't intended as a flame, I was making a perfectly valid point
> about the unnecessary complaining that goes on. Instead of complaining,
> do something about it, that is what the community is about.

Fair point.

> All it takes is effort, if you'd googled before criticising channel 4
> then you wouldn't have needed to extend your rant at colin who made
> perfectly valid points, its not his fault, its not channel 4s fault, its
> OUR responsibility as a community to fix this.

I have had experience of getting media working on Linux. I am able to
playback just about anything. This is one exception. It pissed me off in two
ways really that I have my setup pretty sweet and along comes $CORP who put
out content *about* linux and even *about* the distro I use and I can't view
it. Secondly it annoyed me that last time they did this (as I mentioned with
The IT Crowd) I *did* contact them and I got absolutely nothing back.

So often I do actually mobilise myself to do stuff, just on this occasion
the double whammy kinda miffed me a bit.

> Trac is very good, but spam prone, I have someone full time on
> wine-doors.org killing spam and admining the wiki/tickets. Careful of
> subversion though, there are some >issues< which large repositories.

I help admin about a dozen wikis, some of which use an engine which is a
fork of UseMod wiki affectionately called AbuseMod wiki. You can see it at
http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AbuseMod . The patches were
developed to aide spam protection and are available on that site. Feel free
to grab them and see if they can help trac. Clearly they're perl, trac is
php isn't it? But you might get some good ideas from it.

> Did I say anything about you personally? Not exactly, the whole point
> was to try and steer the list away from unnecessary rants about how this
> should happen or that should happen or people should do this or that and
> get more involved in making a difference.

Ok. It felt personal. If my remarks to Colin felt personal to him I apologise.

> BTW, you painted a picture of yourself as someone who would rather complain than 
> google and fix it, then write about how others can fix it, and also that you seemed 
> to grasp the ideology of the community but not fact that we all have to do our bit.

That picture isn't me. I frequently write up stuff I've done and even have a
number of videos online of how to do stuff in Linux. I don't expect you to
necessarily accept this after this thread but the fact is I do contribute to
the community. I'm kinda upset to think that people think I don't. I don't
have anything to prove to you, but as this is a public list it kinda pissed
me off that the assertion you made could be derived from what I said.

I too attended LUGRadio Live this year, and even helped arrange a BoF
session. In fact you spoke to me at LRL about wine doors.

I apologise if I've annoyed anyone with this thread, that wasn't my
intention. I guess the "I like windows" was one of the tipping points really.


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