[Klug-general] Interactive Websites

[Peter Childs]

I've been find the right tool to write a good web site for nearly 10
years. Its not got easier if anything its got more complicated and
harder as more and more features get added.
I'm quite happy to use any tools but I'm yet to find one which
actually works well or is easy to use by a none comptuer hack.
True the new feature like css and ajax make it better for the end user
but the developer still has to cope with 3 different browsers that
work complely different and use 2 different scripting languages
(Javascript and DHTML) several differnt dialects of HTML/XHTML and CSS
which is not even XML complient.
There are always more than 3 ways to do things and different one of
thouse 3 ways will work on a different client front end.
If you want to create a website that is going to work on every browser
since Netscape 2.2 and yet still use bleeding edge methods when they
are available you are out of luck.
I like Dreamweaver its just a shame I can't get anyone to get me a
licence and its non Linux compatable unless I emulate which would
probably break the licence aggreement

Peter.


On 15/12/06, Karl Lattimer <karl at qdh.org.uk> wrote:
> > Sorry if this felt like a flame, It was not meant as such.
>
> I didn't take it as such, I just think that the recent developments to
> advance the web technology, the >redesign< of the web including
> javascript2, css2 and XHTML are simple technologies which plug together
> in superior ways to HTML 1.1 and javascript 1.2
>
> To rant about it is to not be heard, the technology works and is proven!
>
> The redesign is ongoing and is an evolution of technology, you need to
> remember this and stay upto date with changes.
>
> FYI, CSS2 supports fully WAI standards for output including speech
> synthesis. This was mentioned as an ongoing thing, but any CSS2
> compliant browser on a machine with a speech synthesiser can already do
> this (although I'm not sure on the gnome status of WAI with festival)
>
> > I just
> > don't think the web sould need every writer for it to achieve and
> > entry level of geek before they can put up a well formated page that
> > says "Hello World"
>
> http://www.adobe.com/dreamweaver - Works with wine (and supported by
> wine-doors)
>
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/frontpage/default.aspx - For heathens
>
> Bluefish, scream, quanta and for _REAL_ men eclipse + phpeclipse +
> jseclipse
>
> For those of you who are wondering what I use, I combine, dreamweaver
> for layout and styling with eclipse for large volumes of php code and
> also jseclipse for javascript and AJAX. I use eclipse and PyDEV for
> wine-doors, freevo and other Python code, and eclipse-cdt for gnome-dock
> and other C/C++ projects, and for those of you REALLY interested in my
> tool chain, I use glade-2 for gtk user interface design, and I'm looking
> forward to seeing Glade3 becoming mainstream.
>
> K,
>
>
>
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