[Klug-general] The Android Developer Challenge will award $10 million to developers who build great apps for Android

[Karl Lattimer]

On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 16:41 +0000, George Prowse wrote:
> Karl Lattimer wrote:
> >> So wait a minute, you can't see anything wrong with them releasing a 
> >> sub-standard version of the phone and then saying they're "going to fix 
> >> all the problems in a new release"?
> > 
> > Erm, its a more complete and usable product than an S60 phone, fact!
> > 
> > I don't see how it's sub standard at all, it was a product designed for
> > the US market, the european market is different, they have one
> > manufacturing line... Its also their first phone product, compare it
> > with nokias first phone. 
> 
> What is the S60?

Series 60 symbian, the biggest competitor to iphone

> 
> So it is standard for the US market, it is still substandard for the 
> European market as it is lacking the basic features that phones have had 
> here for over 2 years.

Standard. as JD will no doubt point out is something that makes calls
and sends txts. These are smart phones, name a standard? There isn't
one, they're about features and they all have trade offs.

> > 
> >> Basically if they get it all right then in May we can say it's a good 
> >> phone, until then it is a over-priced, badly thought out fashion statement.
> >>
> >>  > Hold up a second, George, your clothing, why do you spend as much as
> >>  > you do on "designer" gear that you rattle on about?
> >>
> >>  > Point made...
> >>
> >> ??? I have no idea what you're rattling on about.
> > 
> > Well, I remember clearly, no less than 3 in depth lectures you've given
> > me about your ebay buying habits and the merits of clothing
> > manufacturers. 
> > 
> > If you want to berate people for wanting a stylish, usable handset, then
> > don't be so hypocritical in calling them shallow.
> 
> Having a knowledge of clothing manufacturers is the same as having 
> knowledge of art or wine. I have the knowledge so I can make sure I'm 
> *NOT* shallow and actually buy it on it's merits.

Ok. whatever! Really don't want to flame you any more so I'll let that
point drop.

> >> Also, stop getting so defensive, you know what i'm saying is true, 
> >> you're just doing an exercise of damage limitation
> > 
> > Defensive? I don't see how I'm being defensive... I'm only stating that
> > I think this _IS_ a breakthrough device and regardless of its lack of a
> > few minor features (remember on a phone, the phone IS the killer app) it
> > still beats other products on the market on features.
> > 
> Yeah, maybe phones you got years ago. It is as far from a breakthrough 
> device as it is possible to be! It lacks basic functionality and offers 
> nothing new so how is it possible it's a breakthrough.

What basic functionality? 3G hasn't even taken off yet! I think you're
expecting too much. But at least it doesn't have bugs like press C twice
in a txt and suddenly its gone. 

K,