[Klug-general] So, this new iPhone

[J D Freeman]

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 06:34:29PM +0000, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> Why it is good

Ye gods, why are you top posting? it makes this thread really hard to
follow.

> Point 1, its not a phone, its a smart phone

Oh Goody, lets take a common house hold item, and put smart in front of
it.

Its not a toilet, its a smart toilet.

> Point 2, it makes the web ubiquitous from GPRS HDPSA or WIFI which  
> isn't a bad thing as with 3G you should always get charged for data,  
> not call time

ROTFL. Phone companies will love that. 

> Point 3, it has a fully fledged user interface and an excellent  
> multitouch display rather than buttons with nobbles, sure there is  
> the blind person using a phone issue, let them buy ones with nobbly  
> fives

Its not just blind people tho, having tacktile feedback and the like is
very useful, ask anyone who has used those laser keyboard things.

> Point 4, It has a qwerty keyboard, and a conversational history on  
> SMS which actually stores the messages on the flash memory, rather  
> than imposing a ridiculous limit on the user like 100 messages  
> because thats all the sim card can hold, this single point has turned  
> me off motorolla for good, sorry i had to vent it, rant over.

Conversational history for text messages would be nice, but its not
worth the money IMHO.

And not all phones have a silly limit.

> Point 5, Its also a good MP3 player, which is where most phones fall  
> flat on their face at

Ah goody, so I can have some chav playing their RnB loudly on a train.
Useful.

> Point 6, You can have REAL software on it, not just java applets  
> which resemble 1980s gaming excellence

And what do you do with the real software?

> Point 7, ITS OSX!! It has OpenGL built in, it has real compositing of  
> graphics, real widgets not crappy dysfunctional mobile UI crap

Ah yes, eye candy. Wonderful.

> Point 8, Given the competition in the convergence mobile market.
> Apple have won already.

Hold on, lets take this point, then read your comment in the PS!?

> OSX gives them lots of maneuvering room without killing off legacy  
> customers, for instance when someone invents a way to make wifi  
> roaming work without call interruption it can easily be built into  
> the iPhone via a software update, unlike other devices out there.  
> VOIP and alike are on the rise, if you're paying for bandwidth  
> charges, use VOIP and limit your data rate to say 50Kbps ;) by doing  
> so you can avoid costly 3G call charges. There is definite promise in  
> what apple have done, same as there is definite promise in what nokia  
> are doing with the n800 and the n770. The fact that apple have got it  
> announced and directed at a market that is ready for something which  
> is revolutionary in this sense is amazing. People are buying sub  
> standard smart phones, and complaining constantly at how much they're  
> crippled because of the UI. Apple have set the bar a little higher,  
> lets see what the outcome is.

I agree that the current crop of "smart" phones are largely crap. But I
still do not remain convinced that the apple one will be any better.

About the closest I have come to a usable unit is the nokia 9300, It
works fine, with a nice UI, very nice keyboard, you can even touch type
on it.

> PS. Criticizing something before you or anyone else has had the  
> chance to touch it, use it and make complaints about its downfalls is  
> a little silly, just because you find old nokia styles functional  
> doesn't mean we all think we should stay there. Another way of  
> putting this is, just because caves kept the rain off our backs  
> doesn't mean we don't have to build houses. Progress must happen  
> don't shout the innovators down, thats what killed jesus ;P

 PS. Saying something has won already before you or anyone else has had the  
 chance to touch it, use it and make complaints about its downfalls is  
 a little silly, just because you find old nokia styles nonfunctional  
 doesn't mean we all think we should move from there. Another way of  
 putting this is, just because we built houses doesn't mean the caves
 weren't a good idea. Just cos Jesus said it doesn't mean its good.
 Thats what kills the innovators.

 :p

 J
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