[Klug-general] ipv6?

[nic dan]

Julia
Quite apart from all the toilet humour previously.....
As far as I can see IPV6 would just create a huge dumping of old routers/equipment incapable of handling it
Would suit Cisco/LinkSys/Belkin etc maybe?
I also seem to recall that one of the main sneakies they added to IPV6 was to totally change the fundamentals of the end to end pipe principle that IPV4 uses, in that the pipe is just an i/o for any traffic...at the moment
IPV6 raises queries of both sender and receiver as to who they are and what they're sending/receiving, doesn't it?
Seems suspiciously big brotherish to me, and thoroughly damaging to our fundamental freedoms, or am I wrong to be so skeptical??
CIDR seems to have thwarted their plans, if only for a few years, at any rate

http://www.ionary.com/ion-ipv6.html

roll-on global consciousness

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9LQihokzc4

Aitch 
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> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:52:22 +0000
> From: klug at quixotic.org.uk
> To: kent at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Klug-general] ipv6?
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> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:35:12PM +0000, james morris wrote:
> > Thanks both, straight to the point, those kernel modules can go straight
> > out the window then.
> 
> Stop. Step back abit first.
> 
> Currently we have this situation:
> 
> "Do I need IPv6?"
> 
> "No, noone uses it"
> 
> "Why does noone use it?"
> 
> "cos noone else uses it"
> 
> "So if people started using it, there would be a need for it?"
> 
> "yes"
> 
> IPv6 offers alot more than just a bigger address range. Quality of
> Service, and some of the security features spring to mind. Alot of what we
> have in IPv4 is actually cludged together at a later date, VPN's, NAT,
> etc...
> 
> The downside of this is that initially v6 is pain to configure, and
> requires some kit being replaced etc... However, once you to get it
> working, it just works! If your belkin dsl router thingy was able to give
> out automatic v6 addresses, then most people could use it, and not need to
> see the complexity that goes into it. What would be really useful is if
> everyone wrote a letter to their ISP asking for native v6, if enough of us
> write to them, perhaps then they will implement it to stop us bugging
> them.
> 
> In the mean time, those of us working with it nearer the core can continue
> to sacrafice chickens whilst burning black candles in the hope of getting
> it to work...
> 
> J
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