[Nottingham] Microsoft EULA simplified?
Martin
martin at ml1.co.uk
Fri Jul 10 12:23:04 UTC 2009
Michael Erskine wrote:
> 2009/7/10 Martin <martin at ml1.co.uk>:
>> Include strict sandboxing for all web browsers (or even a mini-VM), and
>> certainly permit nothing like the vulnerability silliness of ActiveX,
>> and all stays 'safe' for the web.
>
> This goes way beyond the discussion of "are user logins intrusive?" --
> vulnerabilities are a different issue. Privilege escalation by system
> flaws even more so. Local user logins are only necessary when limiting
> physical access to the machine is not enough or where it is desirous
> to somehow distinguish between users. In those cases it is by
> definition not intrusive -- it is desired! If we're talking (at cross
> purposes) about privilege escalation to perform a particular task, and
> that being achieved with sudo, or login as another user (perhaps, god
> help us, root) then surely that too is by design, entirely necessary,
> and therefore also not intrusive!
All good points and along the lines of the meeting (brief) discussion.
My 'thesis' is that there is a critical line between user freedom to not
care about security (or for opening up vulnerabilities) and 'locking
things down' (intrusively or benignly) in some way to protect the users
against themselves and so being restrictive.
Similarly so for controlling access rights. Logins are an old and well
established way of avoiding users meddling with another user's account
on multi-user machines, but most people see the login as being very
cumbersome or even daunting.
Can we 'safely' do away with all that on 'home' systems and allow the
user to not even know that logins and passwords might exist? And still
be free to reconfigure their systems and still leave the system
protected from 'meddling' from anything external on the network/internet?
That is, give unfettered 'freedom' to the user to play as they please on
their machines but still keep them safe from meddling by malware or
Marketeers or others?
Or do we already have that?
Cheers,
Martin
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