[Nottingham] Wave

[Martin]

Cam,

Good comment, thanks.

On 06/06/10 18:03, Camilo Mesias wrote:
> I think there are some things sort of half-implemented in email that
> we take for granted, and wave tries to complete them - like identity
> management. When you get identity, trust and contact management right,
> spam falls off as a side effect.

For general use, "DKIM" looks to be a good attempt to avoid forged
emails. We could all use GPG signed mail right now. Anyone for a key
signing session to be very sure of who it is that is emailing?

More of an issue is having additional "bells and whistles" and different
views so that you can choose to look at an email thread as though it is
all seperate emails or as one continuous posting. There's various
examples for the web views shown at various sites for viewing maillist
archives. I'm sure we can go better than those for making it all look
good and be truly user friendly.


> The most exciting part of wave, for me, was the instantaneous
> collaboration. So instead of the thought of reading posts that people
> wrote a while ago, and composing then submitting a reply, it could be
> more like chatting around the same computer. Not ideal for everything

We're all very used to the slow serial maillist/usegroup thread.

IRC is loved by some and scary to many. Working with multiple parallel
chats can get to be very confusing. (Especially for anyone who can't
type quickly!)

Try IRC-VOIP?! Mmmm, I've got a few ideas for that! (Very different to
just mere 'conferencing'...)


> but I bet it would fit in with online meetings, electronic
> whiteboards, the stuff of modern agile methodologies. In some ways it
> could be as much of a change as moving from daily snail mail
> deliveries to realtime email - as big a productivity improvement.

Seeing someone's "work in progress" usually is more distracting than
useful. Perhaps twitter shows a good idea in /forcing/ things to be done
in /small/ bites.


> Sadly I still haven't seen Wave used for anything meaningful yet but I
> live in hope! Now that it's open to all I might try and get work
> colleagues interested...

If that is something that can be hosted under the control of someone
from NLUG then let's give it a try and see what we think?


> I was under the impression that the key parts of the Wave
> implementation had been open sourced - not that there are any
> competing implementations but I got the impression that it defused the
> 'all our eggs in Google's basket' argument.

My only real concerns are:

Reliability;
Security;
Immunity to vandalism;
Not losing a lot of work/content when something newer comes along.


Anyone knowledgeable to start the wave rolling?

We can pick up this thread to wave around to see how it works?

Cheers,
Martin


ps: Apologies for the really bad puns!

pps: Still experimenting with the mixed top-mid-bottom posting :-p

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