[Nottingham] A note to gmail users (and others)

Roger Light roger at atchoo.org
Wed Dec 11 12:41:44 UTC 2013


Hi Martin,

Whilst you're casting the blame on gmail, we don't know why it is
being marked as spam.

One reason could be that people receiving emails from lwn have marked
it as spam. If sufficient people do that, then google begins to regard
lwn as a spam sender.

More importantly, lwn is badly configured.They have an SPF DNS record,
but it is invalid. If google ignores the invalid components then the
final result is essentially "there are no addresses that can send
email for this domain". If they don't ignore the invalid components
they may treat it as a badly configured server (which it is) and
penalise it.

When I started using email on a fresh domain all of my emails ended up
in the gmail spam folder. After adding a valid SPF record and ensuring
that reverse DNS was correct and whatever else that I can't remember,
I was no longer relegated to spam. No need to reinvent myself, just
fix my server. I'm not saying it is that easy in all cases, but it is
in some.

Cheers,

Roger

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Martin <martin at ml1.co.uk> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> This mirrors some of the unfortunate silliness I've been seeing recently
> for various emails...
>
> Note that some ISPs use gmail for their email regardless of whether you
> might know or not...
>
>
> LWN: A note to gmail users
> http://lwn.net/Articles/576335/
>
> "Google has, in its wisdom, decreed that email coming from lwn.net is
> spam and is no longer delivering it to gmail users. In typical fashion,
> there is no way to appeal such a ruling..."
>
> There's some good discussion in the comments but in essence, my reading
> is that if you fall foul of such anti-spam measures, then there is
> nothing you can usefully do as an individual other than reinvent
> yourself, or wait and pray to whatever deity...
>
>
> ... And unfortunately our very own maillist sees similar problems for
> some users on certain some ISPs... :-(
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
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