[Phpwm] Opportunity to teach your PHP knowledge to me

Dave Holmes Dave at neteffekt.co.uk
Thu Mar 1 22:34:54 GMT 2007


To be honest reading between the lines there are a lot of professionals on
the list and in our industry we sell our time and our knowledge, which by
it's very nature is a finite commodity and 
therefore we need to ensure our time is used wisely and potential revenue

In the immortal words of del boy, time is money Rodney....

Imparting gems of wisdom on a mailing list is one thing effectively training
up a junior with all that entails is another kettle of fish and IMO a major
ask, which could account for the low level of response. 

Not sure why you would class a thousand hits a day a very busy site we have
MySQL systems capable of supporting that volume measured in minutes
especially when we are tracking high volume email campaigns for our media
clients, as Phil points out what you indicate is very low volume usage which
could be run in low end shared server space.

If you are looking at Oracle they are trying very hard to get into the SME
market at the moment with good deals on the entry level packages, in fact
the SME team are based in Blyth valley just of the M42. So it might be worth
a visit, just be aware they may try to sell you a fiber optic san to store
the contents of a 1MB memory stick while your there! 


-----Original Message-----
From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk
[mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Simon Ferre
Sent: 01 March 2007 21:32
To: West Midlands PHP User Group
Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Opportunity to teach your PHP knowledge to me

-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk 
-> [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Phil Beynon
-> Sent: 25 February 2007 03:29
-> To: West Midlands PHP User Group
-> Subject: RE: [Phpwm] Opportunity to teach your PHP knowledge to me
-> > > My first question is, do any of you have real-world experience
-> > of very busy
-> > > websites written in the aforementioned systems, and would MYSQL
-> > hold up to
-> > > the possibility of thousands of hits a day.
-> >
-> >
-> > Yes; see various very busy sites - e.g. Slashdot and Digg.com 
-> > (Slashdot uses Perl / MySQL, while Digg uses PHP/MySQL (I think)).
-> >
-> > > If not, I would have to look at
-> > > using something like Oracle from the outset in order to save time 
-> > > and problems later on.
-> > >
-> >
-> > There would be no need; unless you need functionality only Oracle 
-> > can provide. If you find MySQL does not offer enough functionality 
-> > for you, check out PostgreSQL. If PostgreSQL doesn't suffice then check
out e.g.
-> > Oracle.
-> >
-> > I'd suggest you avoid over optimising your site from the beginning, 
-> > as it can be hard to spot bottlenecks in advance. Once you have a 
-> > working site, then start to optimise it using e.g. apc, memcached, 
-> > tweaked Apache settings, tweaked MySQL settings etc.
-> >
-> > > Secondly, I feel that while I could write my own site, I
-> might not have
-> > > enough real-world experience of writing PHP code to be able
-> to think of
-> > > every scenario at the outset.  I wonder then if one of you PHP 
-> > > guru's wouldn't mind me becoming your apprentice (for want of a 
-> > > better
-> > word) where
-> > > I could be involved in the writing of some PHP code with the goal 
-> > > of strengthening my skills, or, if it was far above my level of
-> experience,
-> > > would someone be willing to help by writing the site (with
-> me assisting
-> > > where I can as I want to learn as I go along).  Of course money
-> > would be an
-> > > incentive (how much I don't know as we were told today that our
-> > site might
-> > > be 20 man-days of coding).
-> >
-> > I'm sure there are plenty of people on this list who could provide 
-> > this help (myself included).
-> >

I would have thought so, but the replies haven't been coming in thick and
fast :-(

Wonder why?


-> > >
-> > > Does anyone have any thoughts or advice on this, along with
-> > information on
-> > > what the going rate is these days for a PHP/MySQL Developer.
-> >
-> > As far as I can tell it varies widely - it depends on what 
-> > attributes and experience you are seeking.
-> >
-> > Thanks,
-> > David.
-> There's 86,400 seconds in a day - if you got 8500 hits a day in the 
-> main 12 hours of the day (assuming its not a global site here) thats 
-> only one hit every 5 seconds. Unless it was doing something really 
-> major with the HDD or was very memory intensive I'd not be too 
-> bothered about it. :-) One way of keeping things running cool is to 
-> ensure any variables and search results that are finished with are 
-> unset() from memory.
-> A lot of it will depend on exactly what you are intending though, I 
-> wrote a concentric adjacent postcode mapping system for a customer's 
-> site which could really nail a slower server.
-> Phil

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