[Phpwm] too much M$ bashing

[Andy Cowan]

You seem to misunderstand the point I'm making - I want PHP to continue to be usable *cross platform* - i.e. I can deploy on whatever server OS I choose for a project - Windows, Linux, or OS X, whatever suits the project and the client. I don't want to be forced to to write code that is specific to a particular vendor's flavour of PHP and then be stuck with their server platform.

The thread is about M$ making it more difficult for us to keep a choice of platforms, not bashing M$ for developing a rubbish web server. I for one am concerned that they are trying to hijack PHP to try and force me to buy their servers.

And while we're at it, without trying to start a religious war, the goalposts in our space (i.e. web servers, scripting languages, web databases, server operating systems) weren't set by M$ or Apple. They were set by BSDi, FreeBSD and later Linux. Apache, PHP and MySQL. M$ were late to the party, and when they arrived, they only brought cheap lager when everyone else had brought champagne. They're catching up now, which is good - as long as they don't end up dictating how we write code and where we can deploy it.

A.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-
> bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of BinaryKitten
> Sent: 06 March 2009 12:05
> To: West Midlands PHP User Group
> Subject: Re: [Phpwm] too much M$ bashing
> 
> I still prefer Apache over IIS but again when it boils down to it, it's
> becoming more of a "preference" rather than a mandatory "Choice".
> The keynote at phpuk 2009 was all about how the further we go along,
> the
> only difference between whether a piece of software lives or dies will
> be down to it's usability. If IIS remained the way it was, extremely
> difficult to configure properly etc, then it wouldn't have survived.
> Microsoft, though many of us hate to be reminded of this, along with
> Apple set the goal posts a lot of the time for everyone else to beat,
> and yes .. a lot of the time those goal posts are beaten and left
> behind
> .. but all that does is just set a goal post for Microsoft and Apple to
> improve or die.
> 
> As J rightly said, having both will only improve your skill set. Which
> is never a bad thing.
> 
> Kat
> 
> Jujhar Singh wrote:
>  > Whilst linux is my preferred deployment platform; having the option
> of
>  > running a stable PHP environment on Windows & IIS is very useful.
> I'm
>  > sure all you have come across or will come across scenarios with
> your
>  > customers where you can't introduce a Fedora box and your app has to
> run
>  > on Windows and talk to SQL server.
>  >
>  > This is the case at my current workplace and I must say that PHP
> 5.2.6
>  > runs pretty well on IIS 6.  I can't wait till a release version of
> 5.3
>  > comes out which has been compiler optimised for windows.
>  >
>  > Having both options under your belt will only make you more
> desirable to
>  > companies looking for solutions to fit in with their existing
> systems.
>  >
>  > Regards
>  >
>  > J
>  >
>  > Jujhar Singh
>  > Medilink WM
> 
> 
> 
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