[Phpwm] too much M$ bashing

[Chris Lovell]

That is the exact point that is trying to be made. Cross-platform is the
ultimate goal, however M$ do have a very unfortunate history of attempting
to hijack these kind of technologies and running them to the ground while
under the guise of fully supporting them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish for those who
haven't read up much on the tactic. And in the interest of impartiality, I'm
saying this from my current position as the developer for a .NET website :)

2009/3/6 Andy Cowan <andy at w4.co.uk>

> You seem to misunderstand the point I'm making - I want PHP to continue to
> be usable *cross platform* - i.e. I can deploy on whatever server OS I
> choose for a project - Windows, Linux, or OS X, whatever suits the project
> and the client. I don't want to be forced to to write code that is specific
> to a particular vendor's flavour of PHP and then be stuck with their server
> platform.
>
> The thread is about M$ making it more difficult for us to keep a choice of
> platforms, not bashing M$ for developing a rubbish web server. I for one am
> concerned that they are trying to hijack PHP to try and force me to buy
> their servers.
>
> And while we're at it, without trying to start a religious war, the
> goalposts in our space (i.e. web servers, scripting languages, web
> databases, server operating systems) weren't set by M$ or Apple. They were
> set by BSDi, FreeBSD and later Linux. Apache, PHP and MySQL. M$ were late to
> the party, and when they arrived, they only brought cheap lager when
> everyone else had brought champagne. They're catching up now, which is good
> - as long as they don't end up dictating how we write code and where we can
> deploy it.
>
> A.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-
> > bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of BinaryKitten
> > Sent: 06 March 2009 12:05
> > To: West Midlands PHP User Group
> > Subject: Re: [Phpwm] too much M$ bashing
> >
> > I still prefer Apache over IIS but again when it boils down to it, it's
> > becoming more of a "preference" rather than a mandatory "Choice".
> > The keynote at phpuk 2009 was all about how the further we go along,
> > the
> > only difference between whether a piece of software lives or dies will
> > be down to it's usability. If IIS remained the way it was, extremely
> > difficult to configure properly etc, then it wouldn't have survived.
> > Microsoft, though many of us hate to be reminded of this, along with
> > Apple set the goal posts a lot of the time for everyone else to beat,
> > and yes .. a lot of the time those goal posts are beaten and left
> > behind
> > .. but all that does is just set a goal post for Microsoft and Apple to
> > improve or die.
> >
> > As J rightly said, having both will only improve your skill set. Which
> > is never a bad thing.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > Jujhar Singh wrote:
> >  > Whilst linux is my preferred deployment platform; having the option
> > of
> >  > running a stable PHP environment on Windows & IIS is very useful.
> > I'm
> >  > sure all you have come across or will come across scenarios with
> > your
> >  > customers where you can't introduce a Fedora box and your app has to
> > run
> >  > on Windows and talk to SQL server.
> >  >
> >  > This is the case at my current workplace and I must say that PHP
> > 5.2.6
> >  > runs pretty well on IIS 6.  I can't wait till a release version of
> > 5.3
> >  > comes out which has been compiler optimised for windows.
> >  >
> >  > Having both options under your belt will only make you more
> > desirable to
> >  > companies looking for solutions to fit in with their existing
> > systems.
> >  >
> >  > Regards
> >  >
> >  > J
> >  >
> >  > Jujhar Singh
> >  > Medilink WM
> >
> >
> >
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