[Phpwm] trainings

Tue Sep 7 15:26:16 UTC 2010

It's the way I tell em'...

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From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Cowan
Sent: 07 September 2010 12:58
To: West Midlands PHP User Group
Subject: Re: [Phpwm] trainings

Like you weren't expecting it right from the first line :-)

A.

On 7 September 2010 12:38, Carl Sutton <dogmatic69 at gmail.com> wrote:

i like how the last line is sneaked in...

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Taylor <JonathanT at bigredrecruitment.co.uk> wrote:

Hi all,

As a recruiter for the IT sector I have had met my fair share of candidates - most of which, it would seem, have been promised some sort of training by their companies in the past. Generally speaking it is not uncommon for training to be provided but seemingly this is not always the case. In my experience, instances where some training is offered then not delivered, can often result in candidates seeking new employment.

Most of my clients would all look for some 'Zend' or 'Zend Framework' qualification as an indication of competence of PHP development. It may also be the case that if the hire can be made without the qualification the subsequent training will be provided so that a unified standard can be achieved across the team.   

For instance a client I have worked with for many years, based in Wolverhampton, who has continually impressed by making Zend and Zend Framework certification available to new and existing members of their production team. To top this they also provide funding for members of staff to pursue both undergraduate and postgraduate studies. 

The client in question is currently looking for a web based application developer. If this sounds like an opportunity for you then feel free to get in touch. 

Jonathan Taylor
Big Red Recruitment Ltd.
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From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Mike Tipping
Sent: 06 September 2010 12:32
To: West Midlands PHP User Group
Subject: Re: [Phpwm] trainings

Have you come up with a specific piece of 'training' and asked for it? Every company I've worked for has been happy to send me on courses (even coughing up over £1000/year for OU studies) however I've has to chase down the courses and sell my bosses the benefits of them.

The main problem with training is deciding what you need that can give back to the company rather than just qualify your for your next job.

I got brainwashed by 'Investors in People' a few years ago (another course I went on :0) ), which (though in most companies is just a badge to hang on the wall) makes a lot of sense when it comes to training. Basically you write a 5 year plan of where you want your company to be and what you want it to be doing, look at the skills you have to deliver that and the skills you need and build a training plan AND BUDGET around that. 

And training can be books, conferences and free R&D time as much as going on collage courses, infact conferences are the best training I've had.

Cheers

Mike

On 06/09/2010 11:41, "Simon Emms" <simon at simonemms.com> wrote:

Same experience here, but I do have a couple of friends who've worked for companies that have been put through Zend Certification.

S

From: phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto:phpwm-bounces at mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Carl Sutton
Sent: 06 September 2010 11:35
To: West Midlands PHP User Group
Subject: Re: [Phpwm] trainings

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, <nerijus at discountdomainsuk.com> wrote:
Hi,

Does your companies provide any trainings for their developers, and if yes
- in what way? Or I'm asking too much from my boss? :/

Nerijus

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I've worked for lots of companies that promised this before starting, but never actually had one that followed through.

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