[sclug] Microsoft recruiting in Reading Uni

[Neil Haughton]

PMFBI, but I can't see what the fuss is about. I am about as averse to 
MS and Windows as you can get (ask my long suffering colleagues), but it 
hasn't escaped me that they are considered to be probably the best 
employer in the country, as far as pay and working conditions go (ref 
CW, this time last year, I think). To a student wondering how to pay 
back that student loan, they must be a pretty attractive proposition. 
And why not? Who are we to suggest denying those students the 
opportunity of finding out first hand about those prospects, or 
disrupting in any way their opportunity to do so? Working is primarily a 
means to an end, and provided the employer is legal, and doesn't exploit 
the vulnerable, the disadvantaged and so on, I can see no argument 
against it at all. Students are surely free and able to make rational 
decisions themselves.

Come to that, I would be surprised to find that Linux doesn't have a 
good airing at the Uni anyway - a young 'sandwich' student currently in 
my team at work is as adept at LAMP development as he is in the MS 
environment.

I still hate the products :-)

Regards,

Neil Haughton (long time sclug mailing-list listener and Linux user at 
home, Delphi/C# team-leader during the day)


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>   5. Re: Microsoft recruiting in Reading Uni (Tom Chance)
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> Subject:
> [sclug] Microsoft recruiting in Reading Uni
> From:
> Tom Chance <lists at tomchance.org.uk>
> Date:
> Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:25:15 +0100
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>Hello,
>
>If anyone feels like asking awkward questions of a Microsoft employee related 
>to careers:
>
>---
>Career options with Microsoft. An informal and informative employer
>presentation for all degree disciplines - you don't need to be intending
>to apply to come along. Thursday 28th October in HUMMS room 27 6pm start
>- sign up in Careers if you would like to come along
>---
>
>I assume you'd have to be a student in the Uni. Still, these things can be fun 
>either to persuade students attending that they shouldn't work for Microsoft, 
>or just to raise concerns you might have with the company. Unfortunately I've 
>got a meeting that I can't avoid at that time :(
>
>Regards,
>Tom
>  
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [sclug] Microsoft recruiting in Reading Uni
> From:
> Alan Pope <alan.pope at gmail.com>
> Date:
> Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:34:56 +0100
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> To:
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>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:25:15 +0100, Tom Chance <lists at tomchance.org.uk> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>If anyone feels like asking awkward questions of a Microsoft employee related
>>to careers:
>>
>>    
>>
>
>It's not worth it. I was approached by an MS recruitment person once.
>
>HR: "Why do you want to work for the #3 software company in the world,
>when you could work for the #1?"
>me: "Where do I start.."
>
>What followed was lots of riduculous arguments about how Win XP was
>great and that I should forget everything that came before it and
>concentrate on the future..
>
>Utter waste of time. They've been assimilated into the borg and
>indoctrinated into the M$ way of thinking IMO. Save your breath.
>
>Cheers,
>Al.
>
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