[Scottish] HTML templating software?

Robert(Rob) M. Schneider scottish at mailman.lug.org.uk
Tue Dec 3 11:21:01 2002

Well, like I said ... if one wants to program, then there are many 
programming languages (perl, php, python, etc.) and libraries. Feel free.  Go 
for it.

But if one doesn't want to rely on programming and instead do web site 
authoring/management and focus on content--especially when content doesn't 
have to be "dynamic" with service side includes, java, javascript, ASP, or 
whatever, then keep it simple.

With a tool like FrontPage (and I look forward to finding one in the Linux 
world someday), the web developer/author can:

- Cut and paste content from page to page, and all URL's are updated, even 
relative ones.
- can do large or small reorganisations of web site ... moveing pages around 
the folder structure, and URL's are updated.
- numerous tools for supporting the authoring/web mangaement process
- basic native capabilities for using pre-built templates or (preferred) your 
own templates.

I use FP on a number of web sites that I either manage or actively working 
on, ranging in size from a dozen pages up to one that has passed the 10,000 
page mark (long term web site for a large project).

FP is not just a pretty graphical interface... it's a very functional and 
powerful one (by the way, like many of the better tools out of Microsoft, it 
was developed by others and MS bought it ... c. 1995-96 as I recall).

On Tuesday 03 Dec 2002 10:13 am, Graeme Mathieson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:30:33AM +0000, Robert(Rob) M. Schneider wrote:
> > There are quite a few tools in Linux dealing with editing HTML and XML
> > pages, but nothing I've found for building/managing web "sites".
> WML[1].  Really.  It's not the easiest thing to get your head around and
> build up a website structure from, but once you get started, it's pretty
> trivial.  For example, if I want to create a new page for my website:
> --start--
> #use wml::wossname::mathie::common
> #use wml::wossname::mathie::navigation
> <subject "New Page" />
> <p>Start writing text...</p>
> --end--
> which will create all the widgets and formatting for my standard website
> look (which you can see at http://www.wossname.org.uk/~mathie/).
> I have even more customised templates for (for example) my software
> page, so writing about a program I've developed is as simple as:
> --start--
> #use wml::wossname::mathie::common
> #use wml::wossname::mathie::navigation
> #use wml::wossname::mathie::software
> <subject "Silly Software" />
> <sw-list title="Scriptettes" box="scripts_box">
>   <sw-item a="foo.pl" src="foo.pl.gz" title="Foo Perl Script">
>     <p>This is the wonderous Foo script which does everything ever!</p>
>   </sw-item>
> </sw-list>
> --end--
> which will produce something along the lines of:
> http://www.wossname.org.uk/~mathie/software/
> You can get WML to run lumps of Perl to emit HTML at build time, as I do
> to automatically pull my latest GPG key into the website.
> Of course, if you're looking for some graphical interface to click and
> drool over, it's probably not what you're looking for.  But it's pretty
> flexible and easy to use once it's setup.  See
> http://www.ixtab.org.uk/jjm/ to see what you can do by nicking my
> templates and modifying them.  And I see that not a lot of effort was
> put into modifying them either. :-)
> [1] No, not that WML, http://thewml.org/ :-)