[Scottish] Forming New LUG

[ptb]

Hallo all : -

Regarding talk of "further fragmenting the Scottish LUG
community" this allegation assumes at least three things : -
1	That Tony's proposed new UG would be under the LUG umbrella;
2	That one could not be in both a LUG and the pnUG (so as in
religious and political mainstreams and sects);
3	That fragmentation is bad in itself and that Tony forking off
in despair (if he does) couldn't lead anywhere for the rest.

Assumes, I say, but I was told in recent years that to ASSUME
makes an ASS of U and ME.

For the current record where is there a brief history of
ScotLUG's early days please?

Pat

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 08:17:45 +0000
William Anderson <neuro at well.com> wrote:

> Tony Dyer wrote:
> 
> > I have become increasingly disaffected by the lack of progress and 
> > decisions the charting SLUG's future. As such I intend to form a 
> > distinct UG, in the Greater Glasgow Area, devoted to a broad range of 
> > Open Source as well as Linux issues and taking in user as well as 
> > technical views. If anyone is interested in joining me please contact me 
> > at UG at dyer.demon.co.uk. I wish those who continue with SLUG every 
> > success in the future. My Heart and Head are no longer with my co-creation.
> 
> This kind of response is disappointing to say the least.  A lack of 
> progress and decisions regarding the LUG in the middle of December is 
> hardly something to get worked up about - this is a time when most people 
> are winding down and are possibly away from keyboards.
> 
> Some good comments have been made over the last couple of weeks, and while 
> formalised progress hasn't been decided upon, I think it's only fair to 
> mull over further comments and thoughts over the holiday period.  I notice 
> that you didn't participate in the discussion which you yourself initiated 
> on the 9th - any reason for that?  You could have guided that thread to 
> engage and enliven LUG members to be more proactive, but you didn't - why? 
>   You changed your mind from offering to turn up at meetings and do some 
> content for the website at around half past eight on Monday night to 
> forming another Glasgow LUG at about half past ten.  If you attribute your 
> change of heart to some indigestion after your dinner, I can somewhat 
> understand, but otherwise it just smacks of impatience and offhanded 
> irritation.
> 
> If you feel that your only way forward is to abandon the existing LUG and 
> attempt to form a new one, then good luck to you, but it seems an extremely 
> rash and ill-mannered decision to make.  If you want to take charge of 
> something and take it forward, why not do so with the existing LUG instead 
> of creating a new LUG, fragmenting the community?
> 
> I suggested earlier in the month that the community that is ScotLUG become 
> GLUG, retaining the current membership, times, goals, etc, and the ScotLUG 
> "brand" be used as an umbrella organisation to help bring together the LUG 
> communities in Scotland.  You are suggesting further fragmenting the 
> Scottish LUG community - can we have more details reasons why you feel this 
> is necessary?
> 
> Please don't take any of these comments as an attack - I genuinely would 
> like to hear your answers to my questions, and any other comments you wish 
> to make to make your position and thinking clearer.  if you still feel your 
> only course of action is to fragment the community, I again wish you luck 
> and also a guid new year.
> 
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