[Sussex] Question re: my presentation

[Mike Diack]

Just to add to the info floating about. Mandrake ships with kppp as (I 
think) the preferred dialup tool.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Iain Stevenson" <iain at iainstevenson.com>
To: "LUG email list for the Sussex Counties" <sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Sussex] Question re: my presentation


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> Well certainly Yellowdog LInux didn't ship with diald - about the only 
> software that did on demand dialling when I wanted it in 1999/2000 when I 
> first got to grips with Linux.  Since I was using an old Mac (and am still 
> using the same machine now) there were problems with using it and pppd on 
> the PPC platform.  This was a bit bizarre since the guy that wrote pppd is 
> a Mac Linux guru ;-)  If it hadn't been for a lot of help from one chap on 
> the diald mailing list I would have thrown linux in the bin because I 
> wanted diald.  The Yellowdog system did a good job of installing KDE and 
> Gnome (runs appallingly on my Mac btw) but failed to do much with the less 
> commonplace packages.
>
> Eventually, we found that there was a problem in the pppd software.  I 
> informed the said Mac guru and got the customary "sod off newbie, your 
> brain is too small to understand the majesty of my efforts" response.  So 
> I and a few others simply patched the code and I happily ran diald until I 
> got broadband.
>
> I guess this illustrates both the strength and weakness of the Linux 
> "free" distribution model!
>
>  Iain
>
>
>
> --On Thursday, November 4, 2004 9:27 am +0000 Geoff Teale 
> <gteale at cmedltd.com> wrote:
>
>> Gavin,
>>
>> SuSE has done this as part of a standard install procedure for many
>> years now.  Fedora / Red Hat and numerous "user friendly" distros have
>> (including SuSE) PPP configuration through GUI apps available from their
>> control panels or preferences menus.
>>
>> Really Debian, Gentoo, Arch, etc.. are not aimed at novice users and so
>> they don't make this stuff blindingly obvious (or indeed install it if
>> the user has no need for it).
>>
>> This differentiation of distributions approach is a great strength of
>> Linux but also a frustration for people getting into Linux - if all the
>> experienced people say Debian/Gentoo/Aunt Mable's Linux is the best how
>> come it's so hard t figure out?
>>
>> On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 23:55 +0000, Gavin Stevens wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As part of my planned presentation (hopefully at the Nov moot), I was
>>> just wondering if anyone had any experience of installing a distribution
>>> other than Debian & how easy was it to configure that distribution for
>>> dial-up internet connection? Did it work pretty much straight out of the
>>> box, or was there more to it?
>>>
>>> Any answers much appreciated.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Gavin.
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