[Sussex] List Policy (Removal of submissions)

[paul jones]

Steve,
I only joined recently but vaguely recall a set of terms and conditions.
Yes you need a policy decision but what do the present rules say?
Or more importantly what would they have said when the person in
question joined.
Are they completely silent on the point?

A valid point was made that we should be making clear to any new, and
existing, members what they are signing up to.
Yes that may be the purpose of the thread and it is important that this
is appreciated but I personally would take it for granted that by
posting to a forum or similar service means my thoughts are in the
public domain.
How can you withdraw what has been done or said in a public domain or a
group which is opn to all members? 
As many have already said simply deleting them from one place does not
delete them from saved copies others might hold and what is then to stop
them from reposting?
This would be impossible for you to administer surely.

Has the person given a reason why they want past posts deleted?

I agree with most others that you should not have to remove such posts
or threads but for slightly different reasons.
The person making statements by such a medium has no right to withdraw
their statements nor do they own them.

Paul

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Steve Dobson [steve.dobson at syscall.org.uk]
>Sent: 5/10/2008 5:27:02 PM
>To: sussex at mailman.lug.org.uk
>Subject: Re: [Sussex] List Policy (Removal of submissions)
>
>Hi Andy 
>
>On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 16:08 +0000, Andy Smith wrote: 
>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 12:26:50PM +0100, Steve Dobson wrote: 
>> Regardless of what your rules are, you may at some point receive a 
>> properly formed take down notice which either you or we (lug.org.uk 
>> admins) will be required to act upon. 
>
>I do not expect any policy decisions arrived at here to take precedence
>over the law. But I kinda expect that it would take a court order (or 
>similar notice) for the admins at lug.org.uk to act in that way. Or are
>you saying that you'll modify records if a friend who has a cousin who 
>knows some one that is and ex-policeman is all it will take? :-) 
>
>> If you believe in the 
>> sacrosanct nature of the archives I would encourage you to start 
>> planning for distributing them *now*. 
>
>Good advice. But I would thought that you need those servers in other 
>legal jurisdictions so one judge or magistrate can't issue one notices 
>to all servers. 
>
>> You may also want to clarify 
>> that anyone posting here is granting you/us the right to publish as 
>> it is unclear that you/we do have this right for historical mails. 
>
>That is the whole point of this thread. What ever policy is determined 
>here will be posted to the website and added to the welcome message 
>issued by mailman. 
>
>Steve 


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