I can't believe it's taken me *this* long to try using PHP seriously. PHP rulezzz. That's all I can say. BTW I've heard the Newhampton Inn mentioned as an alternative meeting place to the Moon. It has nice reasonably-priced beer, no (well, very few if any) yobs and it has meeting rooms. On the downside it's the opposite side of town from the bus station and it can get quite busy in there. -- Dan