[Wylug-discuss] ADSL migration

[James Holden]

On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 11:18:43AM +0100, gARetH baBB wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2006, John Hodrien wrote:
> 
> > dynamic IP isn't that big a deal, since if you keep the connection up it's
> > static, and with most even a reboot keeps the same IP as long as you stay
> > within your DHCP lease.
> 
> Apart from you may get an IP from your DSL router using DHCP - DSL itself 
> is PPP and gets IP addresses using the PPP LCP, there is no DHCP involved.

Correct. It's the cable providers that use DHCP.

> Which usually means that if the PPP link does have to be brought back up 
> and you're on a dynamic provider, you will 99.9% of the time get a 
> different IP.

Yep. Again, the cableco's use DHCP, and I think I maintained the same
'dynamic' IP for about 18 months at one point when I was with NTL.

> There have been discussions of PlusNet in this thread, before anyone even 
> slightly considers them, look through dejanews for posts from the MD "Lee 
> Strafford" - usually being ripped apart for being clueless and trying to 
> either "apologise" for or defending hosting spammers or some other really 
> stupid no-brainer.

Errr.... yes, Lee did seem to be posting on Usenet about 6 or 7 years
ago. I've not read the posts in detail. How does that help Anne?

Yes, I work for them, but I also happen to think they're a pretty damn
good DSL provider, and so do the customers according to the uswitch
survey last week. At the end of the day, I've got nothing to gain from
recommending them to Anne, staff are excluded from the referrals scheme.

> There's a famous thread involving Lee Strafford and either Clive Feather 
> or Malcolm Muir where he really does dig a very deep hole - can't place it 
> at the moment though.

Let me know when you do.

> I know a number of people of people who actually live in Sheffield, they 
> wouldn't even slightly consider working for Plusnet, they'd rather commute 
> out, it has that bad a reputation as an employer and ISP.

That's odd, because I do a 70 mile round trip into work in Sheffield for
PN. Everyone wants different things from their job, each to his own I
guess, I've always found them pretty decent if you're prepared to pull
your weight. That's not going to help Anne find a new ISP though, is it?

> Though a friend in Sheffield did actually go for an interview there once, 
> as a sort of joke, they spent the first half hour ripping the piss out of 
> the company he was working for - hmmmm, professional.

You've had a go at Plusnet a few times in the past, Gareth, but not
really managed to come up with any substantial criticism. Have you been
a customer in the past? If you were, what made you leave? Perhaps your
own experiences might help Anne decide.


James

> 
> _______________________________________________
> Wylug-discuss mailing list
> Wylug-discuss at wylug.org.uk
> https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wylug-discuss
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 189 bytes
Desc: Digital signature
Url : http://list.wylug.org.uk/pipermail/wylug-discuss/attachments/20060512/69ad2d3d/attachment.bin