[Wylug-discuss] Laptop Suggestions

[Seb James]

On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:06 +0100, Roger Greenwood wrote:
> I am still looking for a cheap laptop, (having had no success on ebay yet). To 
> that end I had the following discussion with PC World. Sorry for the reverse 
> nature of the following correspondence. Should I persue this or just give in 
> and go with a Dell - don't they deserve some support ?

I think it's _really_ important to support vendors like Dell, and
others, who will sell a machine with a pre-installed Linux OS. Even if
that means buying a laptop that wouldn't otherwise be number 1 on your
list.

If you don't like Dell, then buy from a smaller vendor, but _do_ buy a
computer with Linux pre-installed, even if you plan to replace whatever
it comes with with your own preferred Distro.

Not only will this help to nurture a Linux friendly PC supplier
ecosystem, you will benefit from the knowledge that your hardware is all
Linux compatible, so it's good all round.

Cheers,

Seb James

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: PC World <customer.services at pcworld.co.uk>
> Date: 24 Jul 2008 14:30
> Subject: PCW308884CR, RE: Re: PCW307341CR, RE: New Laptop - EI 1201
> To: rogerggbr at googlemail.com
> 
> customer.services at pcworld.co.uk
> Dear Mr Greenwood,
> 
> Thank you for your email dated 21st July 2008.
> 
> We would consider a refund of the whole unit if you did not agree with the
> license agreement, but there is no responsibility on the retailer to refund
> the cost of the operating system.  The point of contact for this would be
> the original equipment manufacturer.
> 
> I trust the above serves to answer your query and thank you for taking the
> time to contact us.
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> Joe Jones
> PC World Customer Services
> 
> 
> -----------------Original Message-----------------
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> What would be your position if I bought one, then refused the software
> licensing agreement?
> 
> Would I then be able to claim a refund on the software as per the standard
> microsoft license terms ?
> 
> I understand this is to be recovered direct from the retailer (yourselves,
> not from microsoft because of the bundling) according to the terms.
> Obviously I haven't read the actual terms that go with this machine yet, I
> am assuming they are similar to others I have seen in the past. Perhaps you
> could send me a copy or point me to the correct link prior to purchase?
> 
> Your comments appreciated.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Roger Greenwood.
> 
> 2008/7/21 PC World <customer.services at pcworld.co.uk>:
> >      customer.services at pcworld.co.uk
> > Dear Roger Greenwood,
> >
> > Thank you for your email dated 17th July 2008.
> >
> > The Ei System 1201 only comes pre-installed with Windows Vista as a
> > manufacturing standard, therefore we would be unable to remove this
> > software.  Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> >
> > Trevor Radford
> > PC World Customer Services
> >
> >
> > -----------------Original Message-----------------
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I called into my local store recently (Huddersfield) and was impressed
> 
> with
> 
> > the EI Systems 1201. I would like to buy one without Microsoft Windows
> > installed, but the people in the store were a bit vague as to whether this
> > was possible. Could you clarify this please - can I get one with the
> > software removed already, or do I have to buy one, then return the
> > disks/stickers for a refund at the store? (Assuming I am not going to use
> > the software and refuse the license agreement). Could you also please
> > advise
> > the amount of discount/refund I could expect?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Roger Greenwood.
> 
> 
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