[Blackpool] Saturday

Fri Feb 13 13:06:13 UTC 2015

That's a great video!  Thank You for sending! 

I've passed it on so others might benefit. I'm sure they will. 

Elizabeth

> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 12:39:46 +0000
> From: heed at bigmassiveheed.co.uk
> CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday
> 
> @Elizabeth
> 
> For an amusing abut aimed at numpties look at how the internet works have a
> look at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBWhzz_Gn10
> 
> @Arthur
> 
> It can be explained simpler than that....If I get some time I'll knock
> something together.
> 
> @James
> 
> Who is the VPS provider and what level package have you got.
> Are you going via Apache or nginX
> Important question....is it a Wordpress site?
> 
> On 13 February 2015 at 12:25, Arthur Garlick <arthur_garlick at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I'm sceptical that it can be written in a useful guide, or else I'd have
> > found one someone else had done that fit the job when I googled it.
> >
> > In my mind it's more a learning by doing experience than a written down
> > guide.  We do need a crib sheet at the end with the details of the things
> > we did so that people can go off and do the experiments in their own time.
> >
> >
> >
> > So:
> > ipV4 addresses, how to find yours.
> >
> > Difference between our ip address and a real fixed ip on the internet.
> > Touch on Class C and what is DHCP on a local router.
> >
> > What is a router, why do we need one.
> >
> > What a web server is and does.  HTML. What actually is a browser.  Whats
> > that http:// about, and https:// ?
> >
> > How we find all of these webservers without knowing ip addresses of
> > everything - DNS
> >
> > Routing worldwide, the origins of internet and robustness of packet
> > switching.
> >
> > Traceroute, just like on the TV with the hackers, where did the data visit
> > on it's way to us
> >
> >
> > I'd cover all that in 15 minutes but by doing hands on stuff, like this:
> >
> > find out your ip address using command line
> > find out ip address of someone else's pc
> > notice similarities in the ip address's (talk about DHCP, router, real ip
> > addresses vs class C.)
> > ping somebody elses ip address in the room, what does that time mean?
> > open the router setup in a browser look at DHCP (need to ask about that...)
> > Have a machine with a standalone web server running and access it via http
> > direct from its ip
> > Open the default html file on the server and edit it
> > Do view source at the browser side
> > Quick overview of the F12 debug features in a browser are to find the code
> > behind a particular area in a big web page
> > Use reverse DNS to look up an ip of a famous site
> > Ping that ip address - understand what just happened request and response
> > compare time with the local ping.
> > Use traceroute to see how that data was routed across the world
> >
> > Also something about what Jo (and James!) does, managing VMs that are on
> > boxes physically half way around the world and the reasoning to have two
> > VMs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe back it up with a handout which might need to be custom to the kit
> > that person has so that the commands are right for them
> > Mint/Ubuntu/PC/Raspbian.  In my mind it's too hard to have a proper printed
> > guide... too many variables.  (But we can try!)
> >
> >
> > So in my mind it's a snappy practical exercise (15mins might be
> > optimistic) that we can do with all sorts of people, this would be just as
> > good done with Pis at the CoderDojo or new families that visit the
> > Makerspace for example.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a dev, I just do the code, there are people on here that could take
> > the idea and improve it or put it in the bin and do it better from
> > scratch...  PLEASE DO!
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:46:20 +0000
> > > From: heed at bigmassiveheed.co.uk
> > > CC: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday
> > >
> > > How deep do you want this guide to be?
> > >
> > > On 13 February 2015 at 10:47, Elizabeth C <
> > elizabethcoop1945 at hotmail.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > re " I want to write down what will be in our 15 minute practical
> > guide to
> > > > how the internet works."
> > > >
> > > > I would be sooooo very grateful for something like that written....
> > > >
> > > > Elizabeth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: arthur_garlick at hotmail.com
> > > > > To: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com; blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:01:05 +0000
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Blackpool] Saturday
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > The plan with the Pi wearable got changed to me delivering it to Les
> > and
> > > > Tom at Mereside tomorrow morning. We will be making a slightly late
> > > > appearance at the makerspace.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know nothing James! But interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > Been busy this week, I'll be playing with the Arduino compatible
> > Teensy
> > > > and working out what the 'compatible' there actually means.
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to write down what will be in our 15 minute practical guide to
> > > > how the internet works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or maybe I'll just drink coffee, sit back and pontificate on the vast
> > > > expanse of things tech that doth offend mine eye.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > See you tomorrow
> > > > >
> > > > > A
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:42:29 +0000
> > > > > > From: jmsp.1983 at gmail.com
> > > > > > To: blackpool at mailman.lug.org.uk
> > > > > > Subject: [Blackpool] Saturday
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahoyehoyey, peeps!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there's anybody coming on Saturday who knows their way around a
> > Web
> > > > > > server, could you help me out with a site on my VPS? I run a small
> > > > forum
> > > > > > and it's recently started running pretty slowly - I'm at a loss as
> > to
> > > > what
> > > > > > it could be. I haven't noticed anything unusual in terms of
> > processes
> > > > and
> > > > > > memory.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
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