[HLUG] MythTV, Mythbuntu, FreeVO & tvtime :lol: - An Apple a day helps you work, rest and play!

Christopher Evans reactiv8 at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Sep 4 12:22:47 UTC 2008


Just wasted another day & night with Myth & FreeVO - Zilch, so they'll now share the bin with Wine :lol: I managed to get something called 'tvtime' showing silent TV in the end, but not much good if that is all it can do. Windoze wins again I hate to say. ... I'm now going to focus all my attention on VirtualBox - when that fails too, I might give VMWare a try if I'm feeling really masochistic, but do I need this?. Why do folk release these applications if they are still 'under development'? This annoying trait seems to have spread to M$ with Vista ... What was wrong with Windoze XP??? I can see now that I'll be spending my time keeping that OS running for as long as possible - Fortunately PCW magazine has all the tips for that this month.

So to conclude: Linux is ok for 'net browsing, playing MP3s & DVDs and some very basic word processing. As for image editing, UFRaw & Gimp are tolerable, but the interfaces are poor, and the jury's out on their output. If I had the money I'd buy a Mac and live happily ever after - Sadly though I'm stuck with 'The Terrible Twins' (Linux & Windoze) - I'd happily strangle both of them.

Say after me:~ "An Apple a day helps you work, rest and play!" - Indeed.


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>    1. MythBuntu & MythTV (Christopher Evans)
>    2. [Fwd: [lugmaster] [Fwd: Stephen Fry Wishes Happy Birthday to
>       GNU]] (Julian Robbins)
>    3. Re: [Fwd: [lugmaster] [Fwd: Stephen Fry Wishes Happy Birthday
>       to	GNU]] (Mark Broadbent)
>    4. Fedora 9 PackageKit freezing and distro recommendations
>       (Paul Stenning)
>    5. Re: MythBuntu & MythT (Morven Lewis-Everley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:45:09 +0000
> From: Christopher Evans 
> Subject: [HLUG] MythBuntu & MythTV
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> Thanks for the tip about MythBuntu, I have heard others speak well of it, and will try it if I don't get anywhere with MythTV - I'm certain both are dead simple, but I have to be in a suitable frame of mind for these things ... & OCRopus & Wine & VirtualBox etc.
> 
> Chris.
> 
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>> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:58:08 +0100
>> From: "matt stone" 
>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] CentOS
>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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>> 2008/9/1 Morven Lewis-Everley :
>>> Apparently Mythbuntu is a very good MythTV based distro.
>>>
>>> A recent Episode of Systm talks about setting up MythBuntu:
>>>
>>> http://revision3.com/systm/bmwt/
>>>
>>> Looks pretty simple.
>>>
>>> Mo
>> 
>> To be honest i've looked at the various myth distributions available
>> in the past and have never really been tempted. While they can be
>> useful to get a system up and running quickly they don't really
>> provide the learning experience that rolling your own provides which,
>> imo, is the best way to get to know how to run and modify your system.
>> 
>> In the end i got my system all sorted on saturday morning (a 6am wake
>> up call from my son made sure i got started early :) I've got a couple
>> of minor issues which i'll be getting on to the mythtv mailing list
>> for but overall things are working even better than my previous
>> install. I've dropped the machine's load average by around 300% boot
>> up is a lot quicker, a quick modification to fstab has seen disk
>> fragmentation drop right down below 1% (previously it used to run at a
>> near constant 75% fragmentation with defrags being run nightly) and in
>> general myth feels a lot zippier when jumping through the menus.
>> 
>> I can appreciate that, for some, a pre built distribution may seem
>> more attractive but my recommendation is, if you've got the time and
>> the patience, jump in do the lot yourself, it's well worth it in the
>> end.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Matt
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:48:46 +0100
> From: Julian Robbins 
> Subject: [HLUG] [Fwd: [lugmaster] [Fwd: Stephen Fry Wishes Happy
> 	Birthday to	GNU]]
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> Hi
> 
> This was mentioned on the LUGMasters List.
> 
> I thought I should share it with you.
> 
> Always liked Mr Fry .....
> 
> Julian
> 
> PS Perhaps we ought to invite him to give a talk at our LUG. he seems
> well versed in all things GNU and Open Source
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:29:07 +0100
> From: Mark Broadbent 
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] [Fwd: [lugmaster] [Fwd: Stephen Fry Wishes Happy
> 	Birthday to	GNU]]
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> Julian Robbins wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> This was mentioned on the LUGMasters List.
>> 
>> I thought I should share it with you.
>> 
>> Always liked Mr Fry .....
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> PS Perhaps we ought to invite him to give a talk at our LUG. he seems
>> well versed in all things GNU and Open Source
>> 
> 
> I'm sure Julian meant to add this... ;-)
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> http://gnu.org/fry
> Please pass on  :-)
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> - -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Lucy
> To: Manchester Free Software
> Subject: [Fsuk-manchester] Stephen Fry Wishes Happy Birthday to GNU
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:11:58 +0100
> 
> Stephen Fry has made a video message, which is available on gnu.org
> 
> http://stephenfry.com/blog/?p=52
> 
> "Twenty five years ago this month, a man called Richard Stallman
> announced to the world his intention to create a complete operating
> system from the ground up. He called it, GNU, which stands for GNU's
> Not Unix.
> 
> To help celebrate this occasion, I've made a video to tell you about
> GNU, and free software."
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:52:34 +0100
> From: Paul Stenning 
> Subject: [HLUG] Fedora 9 PackageKit freezing and distro
> 	recommendations
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> I've been playing with a few distros to see if there is anything that 
> takes my fancy better than Ubuntu.
> 
> Fedora 9 looks good and seems to work well.  Plus it's not brown! 
> However I am having a lot of problems with the PackageKit software 
> installer thing.  It keeps stalling with a "waiting for other tasks to 
> complete" message which never clears.  So if I have chosen several 
> packages to install and get to this I have to quit it and lose the 
> options I set.  From Googling this seems to be a fairly common problem 
> with lots of moaning but no decent solutions.  I have the same problem 
> with two installs (one on VMware and one on a real PC).  It looks like 
> they haven't learnt from the problems with openSUSE 10.1 a while ago 
> when their package manager was broken.
> 
> So with Fedora out of the running and deleted, what other distros are 
> recommended for ease of use and reliability?  Requirements are Gnome 
> desktop (KDE feels clunky and overblown to me), the ability to upgrade 
> from one release to the next without wiping the disk and starting again, 
> recent packages by default (OpenOffice 2.4, Firefox 3.0 etc) without 
> pointless renaming (I want Firefox not Iceweazle!), as much as possibe 
> configurable from the GUI, active development, and plenty of packages in 
> the repositories.  I guess I'm describing Ubuntu really, but I'm keen to 
> look at some others too.  Suggestions welcomed please!
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:04:10 +0100
> From: "Morven Lewis-Everley" 
> Subject: Re: [HLUG] MythBuntu & MythT
> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
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> I have found Wine pretty easy to use these days. The dev team have done a
> lot of work on user friendlyness.
> 
> I tried to set up myth tv last year on Ubuntu and got very confused with it.
> But then I didn't really know what I was doing, and just wanted a simple
> program to run my wii through my capture card and play it through my
> monitor, In the end I used TVTime. Its loads simpler, but no where near as
> full featured)
> 
> Mo
> 
> I tried to set up
> 
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Christopher Evans wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the tip about MythBuntu, I have heard others speak well of it,
>> and will try it if I don't get anywhere with MythTV - I'm certain both are
>> dead simple, but I have to be in a suitable frame of mind for these things
>> ... & OCRopus & Wine & VirtualBox etc.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>>> From: herefordshire-request at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> Subject: Herefordshire Digest, Vol 815, Issue 1
>>> To: herefordshire at mailman.lug.org.uk
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:00:01 +0000
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>>>    1. Re: CentOS (matt stone)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:58:08 +0100
>>> From: "matt stone" 
>>> Subject: Re: [HLUG] CentOS
>>> To: "Herefordshire Linux Users Group."
>>>       
>>> Message-ID:
>>>       
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> 2008/9/1 Morven Lewis-Everley :
>>>> Apparently Mythbuntu is a very good MythTV based distro.
>>>>
>>>> A recent Episode of Systm talks about setting up MythBuntu:
>>>>
>>>> http://revision3.com/systm/bmwt/
>>>>
>>>> Looks pretty simple.
>>>>
>>>> Mo
>>>
>>> To be honest i've looked at the various myth distributions available
>>> in the past and have never really been tempted. While they can be
>>> useful to get a system up and running quickly they don't really
>>> provide the learning experience that rolling your own provides which,
>>> imo, is the best way to get to know how to run and modify your system.
>>>
>>> In the end i got my system all sorted on saturday morning (a 6am wake
>>> up call from my son made sure i got started early :) I've got a couple
>>> of minor issues which i'll be getting on to the mythtv mailing list
>>> for but overall things are working even better than my previous
>>> install. I've dropped the machine's load average by around 300% boot
>>> up is a lot quicker, a quick modification to fstab has seen disk
>>> fragmentation drop right down below 1% (previously it used to run at a
>>> near constant 75% fragmentation with defrags being run nightly) and in
>>> general myth feels a lot zippier when jumping through the menus.
>>>
>>> I can appreciate that, for some, a pre built distribution may seem
>>> more attractive but my recommendation is, if you've got the time and
>>> the patience, jump in do the lot yourself, it's well worth it in the
>>> end.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
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