[Lincs] Lincs LUG: relaunch?

Dave Rice dave at ricey.co.uk
Thu Aug 18 01:47:59 UTC 2011


Hi Becky,

What you still doing up this time of night?

I completely agree with everything you've said, I guess I just wanted to
make sure that you were aware that although being quiet, I wouldn't quite
say dead ;-)  members, including me, were still here and ready to make this
work in the best possible way.

As for the Administration stepping down graciously, to be honest, there
wasn't really one in the first place. We never got that far; Iain and I
tried to get the LUG going again a while back but we were overtaken by
events.

On a personal side, my toes won't get stepped on, I'm certainly not the
right person to 'run' the LUG as I'm away with work far too much. I do,
however, enjoy being at the forefront of the organisation but I'm better at
contributing something that can be done both locally or remotely. ;-)

So as far as I can see as long as Iain has no issues, he was the lead
really, then we should push forward with gusto.

And having good, honest discussions like this is a good sign showing that we
can all be open with each other which engenders trust. A vital part of any
team.

Cheers

Dave


On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Rebecca Newborough <bobobex at bobobex.org>wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Dave Rice <dave at ricey.co.uk> wrote:
> > Becky, Hi,
> > a whole new LUG? You may be right that the whole LUG needs a 'reboot' if
> you
> > will.
> > But, please, and I mean this in the nicest way, do anything the correct
> way.
> > This will avoid putting any existing members' 'noses' out of joint.
> > Just pushing ahead with great enthusiasm is wholly admirable, but just
> > 'taking over' without consulting others is not the way to go about
> bringing
> > your, undoubtedly great, ideas to fruition.
> > As we know FOSS is all about community and it's that community that is
> the
> > most important thing.
> > Any previous administration of Lincs LUG may have been a little on the
> quiet
> > side, but then this is a unique LUG because of it's size and the members'
> > real world jobs/lives etc.
> > As for the web side of things, thanks for registering the names on our
> > behalf but as for the VPS, the LUG already has access to a VPS. Given for
> > free for our use. Do we need another?
> > Again, I'm more than happy to re-vitalise/reboot this great group of
> people,
> > but please make sure you don't step on any toes ;-)
> > Many thanks,
> > Dave
>
> Hi Dave
>
> Equally, I mean this in the nicest possible way that yes, you are
> completely correct about the importance of FOSS and how it is about
> the community, but for the last few years there has been no real
> community within the existing LLUG or any importance given to it, and
> this is what I would like to see changed.  I am doing this openly on
> the mailing list and anybody is welcome to contribute their
> input/feedback on how they want their LUG run.
>
> I am not trying to step on anyone's toes or put anyone's noses out of
> joint.  Existing members and administrators have had ample opportunity
> within the last 2+ years to drive this LUG forward positively.  I am
> not trying to take over the existing LLUG, as to all intents and
> purposes there is no existing LLUG - it is dead and has been for a
> long while.  I am proposing to start a new and revigorated Lincs LUG.
> The VPS issue is a mere technicality at the moment which can be
> discussed further at our first meeting :-)
>
> The responses that I have had today from existing members of LLUG, and
> from members of neighbouring LUGs have been both positive and
> enthusiastic for change.  Lincolnshire is unique in that it is one of
> the largest rural counties but then again, other rural LUGs such as
> Hampshire, continue to thrive despite their rurality.  I understand
> that you may have jobs that take you out of the area (by your own
> admission you are in the States for 3 months!), however that is not
> really an excuse and would be more of a reason to hand the reins over
> to someone who is more permanently based in Lincolnshire and who is
> willingly offering to take the LUG forward.
>
> All I am asking is that the existing LLUG administration steps down
> considerately. Members of every LUG come and go and LLUG is no
> different. When somebody leaves or disengages from the LUG, in whole
> or in part, we should ask that they do so in a way that minimises
> disruption to the LUG. This means they should tell people they are
> leaving and take the proper steps to ensure that others can pick up
> where they left off.  This has not been done in the case of the
> existing LLUG as I am sure that others from the mailing list will
> testify.
>
> Regards
>
> Becky
>
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